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Old 03-01-10, 11:07 PM   #1
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Woo hoo, my Calfee won "Best Tandem" at NAHBS!

The Calfee Dragonfly that I started planning a year ago, and about which I've previously posted took a detour after Interbike. Calfee took it to show at Livestrong Austin, resulting in cosmetic problems that necessitated its refinishing. Since it was disassembled and at Joe's Bicycle Painting I thought it opportune to make a change from the solid Cabernet Red clearcoat (which Mrs. Ritterview didn't like). I suggested to Calfee that it have a multi-colored design. Heretofore, all Calfee and Joe's Painting ever has had available was solid colors, or fades. Calfee stepped up, and commissioned a graphic designer, who completed a design, which will be available henceforth for new Calfee's.

Calfee really put a lot of energy into the custom painting and design, this to show the bike at the North American Handmade Bicycle Show NAHBS. The frame was stripped, and repainted. I replaced the stoker's Edge drop bar with a Profile Design Cobra Wing. This too was stripped and repainted, along with the Edge captain's stem, the stoker stem, the Edge seatposts, and the Specialized water bottle cages. The drop, boom and chainstay tubes are 'naked carbon' (light clearcoat?).

Calfee discussed wheels with Rich at Wheelbuilder. They wanted to display a wheel that would be of more general utility than my Edge clinchers, which are problematic on a tandem due to rim heat issues. Rich built a set with Velocity A23 aluminum rims, which at around 1480 grams are lighter than the Edge 68's. They sport DT240 rear and ELF front hubs, with CX-Ray 28/32 spokes. I spoke with Rich about these. What with only 28/32 spokes and a shallow rim, these wheels are described as a light racing wheel, and he thought a general purpose tandem wheelset would likely need more spokes (which would involve different hubs, as the ELF and DT's max out at 28 and 32 respectively).

At NAHBS, the tandem was the lone carbon bike in an otherwise bamboo bicycle booth. Two other tandems won prizes, a Bilenky for Best Road Bike, and a Spectrum as Best Steel Frame.

2010 Shimano NAHBS Award Winners

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Craig Calfee won with a “Dragonfly” – his 23lb., carbon-framed, belt-driven flyweight tandem that will go to a lucky customer. “It’s built to be light and high performance, yet comfortable,” Calfee said.
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I'll finally be able to take delivery on March 12, then for its maiden trip on the Solvang Century March 13th, so I hope it all works!

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Found a pic from the awards. The real reason I went with the weight weenie theme. So CC can hold my tandem aloft with one arm, while holding the NAHBS 'Best Tandem' plaque in the other. You don't see Bilenky doing this with their tandems.


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After a few detours, you've got yourselves a showstopper!
Congrats . . . bet it rides as great as it looks!
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That is a GREAT looking bike. How much does the bare frame (minus fork) weigh?
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That is a GREAT looking bike. How much does the bare frame (minus fork) weigh?
I'm glad you like. Here's another pic.



From what I was told, the frame (L/M) weighed 2930 grams prior to being painted, and 3210 gram after. That was with the Cabernet Red clear coat, however, I don't know if this second paint job weighed any different. All the weights, and a link to spreadsheets are on this thread.

Tandem Frame..................Calfee...................Dragonfly....................2930 gms......6.46 lbs
Paint...............................Calfee...................Cabernet Red.................280 gms
Total..............................................................................................3 210 gms......7.07 lbs.
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Congratulations on your tandem's well deserved win at the NAHBS. I was pleased to see your bike at LiveStrong Austin and took a few photo's of it there. I thought it was perfection, but I see that I was wrong. The new paint scheme is even more beautiful. I especially like the work on the stoker's bar and captain's stem. What does Mrs. Ritterview think of the bike now?
Good luck at Solvang! Jacqueline
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Maybe it's just me, but I can't look at the paint scheme on your Calfee without thinking, "That looks like the kind of paint job Breanna Ruegamer might come up with for a Ying/Yang tandem".

More specifically, I thought immediately of Bud's (WheresWaldo) custom Ruegamer:



It's technically quite different, but seems to subscribe to the same asymetric / symetric abstract, semi-translucent approach to 'highlighting' without completely hiding the underlying composite graining in the frame.

Aside from the paint and components, was there anything about the actual Dragonfly frame that departed from the typical Calfee build?

Congrats and keep us posted on your progress with the bike over the next year or so.
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It's about time you're finally getting to ride it!!! It's been a long road. It looks sweet. I'm sure the pictures don't do it justice. Maybe I'll get to see it at Solvang.

I know your bike is lite but I think Craig has been working out.
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WOW! The bike is nothing short of stunning!

Where will your weight weenie / aesthetic passion take you next, will you start cutting the side panels out of jerseys?

Hope to see it on the road soon.

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Beautiful bike. I hope you got a special deal, having to wait so long to actually get it.
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Maybe it's just me, but I can't look at the paint scheme on your Calfee without thinking, "That looks like the kind of paint job Breanna Ruegamer might come up with for a Ying/Yang tandem".
So is Ruegamer backin business? Looks like they were also at the NAHBS.
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So is Ruegamer backin business? Looks like they were also at the NAHBS.
http://www.handmadebicycleshow.com/2...s-in-the-game/

Nice looking bikes, to be sure and I really like the use of the Jobst clamps as frame stands; very cool!

I also like the candid commentary from 'Bre' regarding getting bikes that are just 'too light'. 'Bout time someone infused the discussion with some balance regarding weight, i.e., anorexia always comes at a price.
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So is Ruegamer backin business? Looks like they were also at the NAHBS.
Yeah, she was at NAHBS, and got some pub today at Cycling News.



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Ruegamer says this full-carbon track tandem frame weighs just 1,800g.
That is one lightweight frame, and aero too.
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Hi Jacqueline, Mrs. Ritterview here. I am thrilled with the final product and so proud of Ritterview! This was his vision and Calfee really came through with a superb graphic design and paint scheme. A tandem this pretty should be displayed under the lights in the living room instead of languishing in the garage. Well, it's been fun watching it evolve and will be even more fun to ride.
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Wow beautiful bike. The founder of NAHBS built a singlespeed for me 3 years ago. I even asked Don if he would consider building a 26 inch road tandem to accomodate my short stature but it was too expensive of a build for me.

Again, congrats. Love the pic of the bike being held up with one arm. Awesome.
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You are going to love the ride. We have three rides on ours so far and we appreciate it more with each ride.
For wheels I went with White Industries Mi5 front, Mi6 rear, Velocity Fusion rims, CX Ray 32 hole.
So far no problems at all, we weigh 250 lbs.
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It certainly is beautiful, and my first thought was that it looked like our Ruegamer, but it is a bit different. and if 23 pounds is correct a good two pounds lighter than our Rue also.

I need to take a new photograph as there are a few minor cosmetic changes from this first build-up.

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It's about time you're finally getting to ride it!!! It's been a long road. It looks sweet. I'm sure the pictures don't do it justice. Maybe I'll get to see it at Solvang.
Homeyba, I've got a question that needs your particular expertise. Right now, the eebrake calipers are on, and I'd like to ride it initially with calipers. Eventually I will replace the rear caliper for an Avid BB7, so as to avoid melting my Edge rims. The Solvang elevation profile to me, however, looks like there is rim heat potential for our 305 lb. team. If I exercise caution, should I be able to ride Solvang with the calipers and carbon rims?

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I seem to recall one fast downhill section that has a pretty strong crosswinds. Several people I was riding with including myself commented that they were pretty spooked by the crosswind. Although I have not ridden Solvang in quite a while* I do think I encountered the crosswinds in that area more than once, don't know if it is a good choice for maiden voyage with high profile rims.

*I quit doing the solvang a while back because I found it to be one of the most expensive and poorly supported rides I have done, more than once I have expieinced them running out of water and food (peanut butter sandwhiches) at the same rest stop.
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I don't think you'll have a problem. Of course prudence is always a good thing and if you're careful you should be fine. The big descent is after the Drum Cyn. climb. The back side is fairly technical at the top and the pavement is bad. There are two or three hairpins. One lefthander was especially bad, with large potholes in the entrance to it. It's possible they've fixed them since I last rode it but be aware they could be there. Nothing else should even get your brakes much beyond warm unless you are doing something you shouldn't, like dragging your brakes.

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Maybe it's just me, but I can't look at the paint scheme on your Calfee without thinking, "That looks like the kind of paint job Breanna Ruegamer might come up with for a Ying/Yang tandem".

More specifically, I thought immediately of Bud's (WheresWaldo) custom Ruegamer:



It's technically quite different, but seems to subscribe to the same asymetric / symetric abstract, semi-translucent approach to 'highlighting' without completely hiding the underlying composite graining in the frame.
The design was commissioned to Andrew Hilman, a graphic designer in Southern California. Persual of his website doesn't give the impression of someone starved for ideas needing to borrow from elsewhere. He does a lot of racing car graphic designs, in which you can see the some of the same elements. The red color, for example, is seen on the car on the left.



Much of the design was set from the inclination to do multiple colors, and it makes sense to have these colors extend the length of frame. Calfee likes the naked carbon (to demonstrate, I guess, that the bike is carbon, and neither steel nor bamboo), and so that was incorporated, and Joe's Painting was executing, so it was going to have the clearcoat over carbon for which Joe is renowned.

So, in looking at these two designs together, there are some common elements in the emphasis on length, but there is nothing at all derivative.

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The design was commissioned to Andrew Hilman, a graphic designer in Southern California. Persual of his website doesn't give the impression of someone starved for ideas needing to borrow from elsewhere. He does a lot of racing car graphic designs, in which you can see the some of the same elements. The red color, for example, is seen on the car on the left.

Much of the design was set from the inclination to do multiple colors, and it makes sense to have these colors extend the length of frame. Calfee likes the naked carbon (to demonstrate, I guess, that the bike is carbon, and neither steel nor bamboo), and so that was incorporated, and Joe's Painting was executing, so it was going to have the clearcoat over carbon for which Joe is renowned.

So, in looking at these two designs together, there are some common elements in the emphasis on length, but there is nothing at all derivative.

I didn't suggest derivation, besides with so little surface area there is not very much space to really innovate. I also thought I said I liked your frame.

What I really want to know, after you have some miles, is how much you like/dislike the Edge fork.
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I didn't suggest derivation, besides with so little surface area there is not very much space to really innovate. I also thought I said I liked your frame.

What I really want to know, after you have some miles, is how much you like/dislike the Edge fork.
I was actually responding to TG's comments. In a larger sense, the graphic treatment of your frame did inspire the Calfee design, as I liked its crisp and bold look, and it inspired my dissatisfaction with the solid color what I had, and prompted me to ask Calfee to hire a graphic designer.

I too am very curious about the Edge fork. Mike Moore at Calfee says they had discussions with Edge at NAHBS, and Edge has been doing some testing, and my be edging towards certification of the fork for tandems. That would be welcome. If I meet up with Homeyba at Solvang, we'll have do a comparison of Dragonfly's equipped with the Alpha Q and Edge.
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... doesn't give the impression of someone starved for ideas needing to borrow from elsewhere. So, in looking at these two designs together, there are some common elements in the emphasis on length, but there is nothing at all derivative.
Well that's all interesting, but has nothing to do with my observation that when I saw it the first thing that came to mind was Bud's Ruegamer (period).

However, I do need to correct an error in my post: it was Bud's daughter, aka Bittersweet, who had a lot to do with the color scheme on their Ying / Yang, in collaboration with Bre Ruegamer.
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