Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 40
  1. #1
    Senior Member DCwom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Central New Jersey
    My Bikes
    Burley Tandem
    Posts
    324
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Researching TTV (Tandem Transport Vehicles)

    The kids are grown, and the mini van is 10 years old, so its time to start thinking about a new non-commuting vehicle. I really like the ease of popping off the front wheel and putting the tandem into the mini van, quick, painless, and weather proof, but we don't need a mini van anymore. I'm wondering what other vehicles make good candidates to transport an assembled (minus front wheel) tandem? I'm sure the key is in the seat layout.

  2. #2
    hors category TandemGeek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Posts
    7,162
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    People have stuffed tandems into cars as small as a Honda Fit (riders sitting in tandem in the car with the bike on the right) and Honda Elements (right down the middle) are a very popular tandem hauler at many rallies; it's all about deciding just how much car you'd like to have and how much of your personal space you're willing to share with your tandem.

    Zona hauls their tandem around in a Honda Accord wagon, which works fine for them... we have used two different K1500 Suburbans, a Toyota 4Runner and two different pick-ups with enclosed shells to haul ours around.

    Having the rolling garage is nice if you do a lot of trips or rallies with your tandem and don't want to leave it attached to a rack on a car or haul it into your sleeping quarters at night but, clearly, those who subscribe to the roof or rear rack mount scenarios are free to drive what they like... I've seen everything from a Porsche Boxter with receiver mount carrying a Cannondale RT3000, to Mini Coopers with Atoc Mounts hauling tandems, to a small enclosed trailer / rolling bike tandem garage with a triplet stuffed in caddy-corner sans wheels + a tandem, to our '97 Suburban with 3 tandems on the roof, six people inside and enough luggage behind the 3rd row seat for a 3-day rally.

    We've kind of reached the point where we don't like having the bikes IN the passenger compartment anymore. At present, our '96 DoubleCab Tundra allows just that as the bikes and tandems sit in the enclosed bed, out of sight and out of mind. We no longer have to deal with the noise and odors that come with hauling a bicycle around inside a car and I applied 'Limo Tint' to the camper shell's windows which make it nearly impossible to know what's in the bed of our truck to most passers by. Yeah, the gas mileage sucks... Thought about adding a Mini Cooper S to the stable, but I'd have to give up my two motorcycles to make that work and I'm just not ready to do that.




    Last edited by TandemGeek; 03-04-10 at 07:53 AM.

  3. #3
    Pants are for suckaz HandsomeRyan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Mt. Airy, MD
    My Bikes
    Hardtail MTB, Fixed gear, and Commuter bike
    Posts
    2,579
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    We fit our tandem inside our Nissan Rogue. Fold down the passenger seat and the passenger half of the back seat. We have to remove the saddles (on QR's so not hard) but it fits with the wheels on.

    The constantly variable transmission is pretty neat too.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Philadelphia area, Pa., USA
    My Bikes
    Santana Cabrio triplet, Santana Fusion S&S tandem, Co-Motion Pangea S&S Co-Pilot, Co-Motion Nor'wester Co-Pilot, C'dale F2000
    Posts
    702
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Believe it or not, you can fit a medium-sized tandem in a Subaru Outback wagon. But, you have to put the rear seat down and take both wheels off. We usually put it on the roof, but on long trips we put it inside. Actually, now that we have a Honda Odyssey, we don't use the Subie all that much. You still can't beat the convenience of a minivan... we can fit our Santana Cabrio triplet inside the Odyssey with only the front wheel off.

    Other vehicles we considered for tandem transport included the Honda Element, as mentioned, as well as the Ford Flex.

  5. #5
    Senior Member zonatandem's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    My Bikes
    ariZona carbon fiber tandem & single
    Posts
    10,111
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    A tandem can be fit in most vehicles; it's just a matter of figuring out how.
    Have hauled tandem in Honda Accord SW and Hatchbacks, VW Squareback, Jeep Wagoneer, Ford SW, etc.
    One time needed to haul 3 tandems to our local Bike Swap meet. By taking off pedals, capt. seatpost with stoker bars attached and wheels we fit all three in the Accord Station Wagon with the hatch part way open and bungeed down.
    Hey, where ther's a will, there's a way!
    Pedal on TWOgether!
    Rudy and Kay/zonatandem

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    787
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by DCwom View Post
    The kids are grown, and the mini van is 10 years old, so its time to start thinking about a new non-commuting vehicle. I really like the ease of popping off the front wheel and putting the tandem into the mini van, quick, painless, and weather proof, but we don't need a mini van anymore. I'm wondering what other vehicles make good candidates to transport an assembled (minus front wheel) tandem? I'm sure the key is in the seat layout.
    We are in same boat (or should I say van) We have a Toyota Sienna and put the bike on top using the ATOC tandem topper. We can easily fit in inside by taking two seats out, but it's a pain to remove and install the seats.
    We thought the Subaru Outback might be a good option. Would be easier to put it on top since its lower than the Sienna. Taking both wheels off to put it inside would not be something I would do.

  7. #7
    Senior Member joe@vwvortex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Vacaville, CA
    My Bikes
    Santa Cruz Blur LT, Kestrel Evoke, Co-Motion Speedster Tandem
    Posts
    487
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Our Avant works for us - this is my old Avant - but my new one is just a newer model which is about the same size. I use a Yakima sidewinder. I don't like having a bike in the car. Still had room for four and all the gear. Oh - it gets about 30mpg on the freeway without the bikes - about 25mpg with all of them on top.

    Administrator and Contributing Editor - Vortex Media Group

  8. #8
    Newbie vorticity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    3
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Went Back to a MiniVan

    For years we were in the same boat as you: had the minivan, perfect for Tandem transport. Then 7 years ago we went away from it with a roof rack, then a DraftMaster rack behind the 4Runner. We just ordered a new Tandem and decided we don't want to deal with the weather and dirt on the bike. So we bought a used Toyota Sienna. ...full circle. What we will do to protect these puppies. Vort.

  9. #9
    Tandem Vincitur Ritterview's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    BMC Pro Machine SLC01, Specialized Globe, Burley Rock 'N Roll tandem, Calfee Dragonfly tandem.
    Posts
    3,232
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by DCwom View Post
    I really like the ease of popping off the front wheel and putting the tandem into the mini van, quick, painless, and weather proof, but we don't need a mini van anymore. I'm wondering what other vehicles make good candidates to transport an assembled (minus front wheel) tandem? I'm sure the key is in the seat layout.

    I find my Honda Odyssey to be really useful. It is so nice to have the tandem inside so I don't have to worry. For example, next weekend we'll be at a hotel in Solvang with the tandem safely and discretely ensconced in the car. Combine with Saris rack, which keeps the bikes quite stable, and the Weathertech mat to keep the sync chain from staining the carpet. Having the tandem upright is really nice. It is hard outside a minivan to get this functionality. A Honda Element will fit a tandem, but isn't so nice to drive.

    Last edited by Ritterview; 03-06-10 at 04:02 PM. Reason: Pic wasn't working

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Chicago Area
    My Bikes
    Co-Motion Macchiato, LightSpeed Road Bike
    Posts
    56
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    We've been having a good experience with our '05 Mazda 6 Hatchback. We take both wheels off, put the rear triangle behind my wife and still have room for two airline size carry-ons, two backpacks and a crate for helmets, shoes, gloves, etc. I bought a piece of light weight carpet and cut it to fit the back to protect the back of the rear seats and the rest of the interior from the chain. Also use a Pedro's Chain holder to keep the chain from flopping around. I cover the whole thing with an old dark, blanket.
    We can get the bike out and ready to roll in under five minutes.
    We just came back from a 2 week trip with the bike in the car. It all seems to work fine.
    Unfortunately, Mazda stopped making the 6 in a hatch. We're looking at the new Honda Crosstour and the similar Acura as options. I think the Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback might also work.
    All this is because we won't drive anything that doesn't look and drive like a real sedan. We figure most of the time we use the vehicle it's not carrying a bike so it should be something we enjoy in that bike-less mode

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    detroit, mi
    My Bikes
    Trek Pilot 2.1, Kona MokoMoko, Burley Duet.
    Posts
    107
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    How about some love for Detroit?

    My neighbors and I would really appreciate it if you would look at some American options. The Ford Flex and Edge are great to drive, and hold a lot. The new Chevy Equinox and GMC Terrain are roomy for th3eir size SUV's. My Fiancee's Chrysler Town & Country minivan is feature packed and would easily hold a tandem or two.
    As for me, i got rid of my station wagon, and bought a 2010 mustang GT convertible. hitch rack, and voila', instant TTV made right here by union labor in Flat Rock, Michigan.

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    842
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sure, why not. As long as price, quality, reliability are on par... and my tax dollars are not used to bail the companies/unions out, why not.

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    detroit, mi
    My Bikes
    Trek Pilot 2.1, Kona MokoMoko, Burley Duet.
    Posts
    107
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The tax dollar argument goes both ways! you're an investor now! That's why i suggested the specific vehicles. they are great, and you can feel like a patriot!

  14. #14
    Hey let's ride. pathdoc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Allen, TX
    My Bikes
    Torelli road bike, Tsunami tandem
    Posts
    2,004
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I am van lover. We've had 3 minivans in the past and now I just stepped up to a Chevy Hi top conversion van. I can fit anything it this beast.

  15. #15
    Senior Member WebsterBikeMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Just outside Kitchener, Ontario
    My Bikes
    Nishiki Continental, Bilenky custom travel tinker, home built winter bike based on Nashbar cross frrame
    Posts
    622
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by phoran View Post
    My neighbors and I would really appreciate it if you would look at some American options. The Ford Flex and Edge are great to drive, and hold a lot. The new Chevy Equinox and GMC Terrain are roomy for th3eir size SUV's. My Fiancee's Chrysler Town & Country minivan is feature packed and would easily hold a tandem or two.
    As for me, i got rid of my station wagon, and bought a 2010 mustang GT convertible. hitch rack, and voila', instant TTV made right here by union labor in Flat Rock, Michigan.
    Fine for you to state your appreciation, but last I checked this was not an American forum. We welcome folks from all countries. While it may be dominated by Americans, let's try not to let it devolve into US-centric politics.

  16. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    detroit, mi
    My Bikes
    Trek Pilot 2.1, Kona MokoMoko, Burley Duet.
    Posts
    107
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I agree. I never would have bought the Mustang if my fiance didn't have the minivan!

  17. #17
    Senior Member PedalPink's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Northwest Ohio
    My Bikes
    2010 Calfee Tetra Tandem, 2005 Co-Motion Primera Co-Pilot, El Conquistador de Montanas, Schwinn Twin
    Posts
    106
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    We took our tandem with us when shopping for a new vehicle last year. We ended up with a Honda Element (color coordinated to match the bike) and love it. We rarely have passengers, so we removed the two rear seats. The inside holds our tandem and two single bikes (and a lot of gear); the roof rack holds our two kayaks. We would have liked a little better gas mileage, but we wanted the peace of mind of storing the bikes inside the vehicle. We must be a good ambassador for the Element - several of our friends have now purchased it, too.

  18. #18
    Senior Member colotandem's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Golden, CO
    Posts
    235
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I guess we're the Detroit poster child... We use our Yukon Denali (04 model) with the seats folded down and our tandem fits similar to TG's truck - diagonal, but only need to take the front wheel off. I'll have to snap a photo next time we put the bike in there.

    I will say that we have a tandem rack on my Subaru Outback, but the tandems get transported inside the Denali most of the time.

  19. #19
    hors category TandemGeek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Posts
    7,162
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by colotandem View Post
    I guess we're the Detroit poster child... We use our Yukon Denali (04 model) with the seats folded down and our tandem fits similar to TG's truck - diagonal, but only need to take the front wheel off.
    Maybe.... Our last two Suburbans ('97LT & '02 Z71) were both made in GM's Silao plant in Mexico. Our Toyota Tundra, on the other hand, was made in Princeton, Indiana using a motor made in Huntsville, AL. Hence, the quandary most consumer find themselves in when attempting to be jingoistic in their buying habits.

    However, at least we know where all of our past and current tandem frames were made....!!!

    Claremont, California
    Bedford, Pennsylvania
    Seattle, Washington x 2
    Rancho Cordova, California x 2
    La Selva Beach, California

  20. #20
    rebmeM roineS JanMM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Indiana
    My Bikes
    RANS V3, RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer
    Posts
    11,852
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Really like being able to put our tandem (with F wheel off) right down the middle of our 2001 Mazda MPV. My long wheelbase RANS V3 also fits down the middle without removing a wheel. But, when the minivan gives up the ghost, I'll look into something smaller. Already have a Thule tandem rack.
    RANS V3 (steel), RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer

  21. #21
    Tandem Mountain Climber
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    San Mateo, CA
    My Bikes
    Calfee Tandem, Custom CAAD9 BB30, 90 Santana Arriva Tandem, 02 CAAD4 errand bike, 87 Cannondale "Black Lightning"
    Posts
    4,090
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    As with the Honda Fit mentioned before, the (pre 09) Toyota Matrix can also take a tandem lengthwise with the driver and passenger sitting on the left side (F&R) of the vehicle.

  22. #22
    Senior Member zonatandem's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    My Bikes
    ariZona carbon fiber tandem & single
    Posts
    10,111
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Our Honda station wagon was built in the rustbelt (Marysville, O) but the trans and tires came from Japan.
    Hard to say anymore where anything is really 'made'.
    Our Zona tandem utilized American made carbon fiber tubes and was built by a genuine American frame builder (Bob Davis, Peoria, AZ) and utilized American, Japanese, Taiwanese and Mexican made compoenents.
    Asi es la vida!
    Pedal on!
    R & K/zonatandem

  23. #23
    Tandem Vincitur Ritterview's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    BMC Pro Machine SLC01, Specialized Globe, Burley Rock 'N Roll tandem, Calfee Dragonfly tandem.
    Posts
    3,232
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by briwasson View Post
    Other vehicles we considered for tandem transport included...the Ford Flex.
    The Ford Flex looks interesting for tandems, but you could back a tandem into it, and keep it upright?



    The 2011 Honda Concept Odyssey introduced at the Chicago Auto Show looks nice to me, but I have a thing about minivans.

    Last edited by Ritterview; 03-06-10 at 09:30 PM.

  24. #24
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    1,144
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ritterview View Post
    The Ford Flex looks interesting for tandems, but you could back a tandem into it, and keep it upright?



    The 2011 Honda Concept Odyssey introduced at the Chicago Auto Show looks nice to me, but I have a thing about minivans.

    I looked at one of those at a car show and there is not that much height in the rear. 32 or 34" if I recall. I need 38" minimum for all my bikes with the seat on.

  25. #25
    Tandem Vincitur Ritterview's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Northern California
    My Bikes
    BMC Pro Machine SLC01, Specialized Globe, Burley Rock 'N Roll tandem, Calfee Dragonfly tandem.
    Posts
    3,232
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by dvs cycles View Post
    I looked at one of those at a car show and there is not that much height in the rear. 32 or 34" if I recall. I need 38" minimum for all my bikes with the seat on.
    Ay, there's the rub. Sure in many cars such as the Flex, there might be the length to store a tandem, but have insufficient height to store upright. And not upright is a big compromise. In other cars such as crossover SUV's, there might be the height, but not the length. Cars with both tandem length and saddle clearing height are limited. These include minivans, large SUV's, the Honda Element and ?

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •