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Old 03-08-11, 04:48 AM   #1
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Entering the world of tandems...

I've always been intrigued by tandem bikes, and my wife shares my interest. I happened across an older Burley Rock n Roll at a really good price, so couldn't pass it up. I have already learned a lot by poking around the forum here, and hope to learn a lot more. Just wanted to say hello and thanks for this resource...looking forward to becoming more educated.

I figured this would be a decent bike to learn on and figure out if we like tandems. If we take to it, we can move up to a higher end bike down the road. For $350 plus two new tires, pretty low risk to me. I'll probably spend a few more bucks tweaking the pedals, etc.

Can't wait for our crappy weather to improve a little so we can take it out.


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Old 03-08-11, 08:41 AM   #2
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Welcome! There are many on this forum who have fond memories of a similar Tandem and will wax poetic about its virtues as a first tandem. Looks to be in most excellent condition.
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My GF and I just became taneminators ourselves. Super fun! Enjoy the Burley...=-)
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Nice bike-I owned a '90 Duet (road version) for almost 20 years. It served us well. I have to say, though, the captains bars on this bike look like they came off of a beach cruiser! It looks to be in very nice condition; you should be able to refine it to fit your needs for a very reasonable sum. Enjoy it!
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Congrats on the new toy!
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Nice bike-I owned a '90 Duet (road version) for almost 20 years. It served us well. I have to say, though, the captains bars on this bike look like they came off of a beach cruiser! It looks to be in very nice condition; you should be able to refine it to fit your needs for a very reasonable sum. Enjoy it!
Yeah, I agree on the captain's bars. I will be figuring out something else to replace those.
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We also have a Burley Rock 'N Roll, which we bought new in 1992. Now that we have a better road tandem, we use it as our city bike, or things like towing our Westies.

You say you've bought new tires, and these seem to be thick and knobby. Such tires are great for trails, but if you are going to be using it primarily on the road, you'll want to get thinner and slicker tires, which will greatly decrease your weight and rolling resistance. With the right tires the Rock 'N Roll can be nearly as fast as an optimized road tandem. For example, the morning loop on our Burley here averages 18.6 mph, and on our Dragonfly on the same loop we've done 20.1. So, maybe 1.5 mph difference on the flats. The hills are a different story.

Questions about the Rock'N Roll, as well as tires are discussed on these threads:

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Thanks for the reply, Ritterview ( and others! )

I actually put the 26x1.95 Specialized Armadillo Hemispheres on for a reason. Yes, I know they are inefficient. I will likely be hauling a child trailer, and I'll be riding mostly urban but my in-laws live on a farm in rural Kansas with lots of dirt roads. I wanted a bombproof tire that could handle any situation as well as increase the comfort of the ride for my more sensitive (to ride quality) stoker wife. I didn't want to get a flat 5 miles from home with my daughter in tow if I can avoid it. I didn't want to worry about hitting the darn steel plates they sometimes put on our streets as temp repairs. In the odd case that we take the tandem out to farm country, I wanted a tire that could handle off pavement a little. In other words, yes, I thought about it, but went conservative on the tires. I don't want to have all three of us out, have some groceries on board, and have to worry about ride quality or flats. For now, speed is not a priority. Once I get some more experience on the bike, my attitude may change. I'm a tandem green pea right now, so there will be a learning curve. I wanted the tandem to have as comfortable a ride as possible to entice the other half into riding it more, hence more of a balloon tire.

I have a road bike with 700c x 25 tires if I want to go fairly fast. For now, the tandem's role is for all three of us to be able to ride around for fun...to the park, grocery store, etc. If we like it, we may go on longer jaunts and in that case I would probably get some more efficient rubber. Actually, on my beater bike, an 2000 vintage steel non-suspension Spec Hardrock, I indeed went with a pretty small and smooth street tire instead of the stock knobby rubber for exactly the reasons you bring up. It helped the efficiency out when hauling the kid trailer or my Burley Nomad.

I hear you, though, and you make a good point.

I much appreciate your links. Thank you.

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Welcome to the world of tandems!
A GREAT lookin' Burley R&R . . . from the shape of the frame looks like one of the earlier versions.
Enjoy the ride TWOgether!
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Welcome to the world of tandems!
A GREAT lookin' Burley R&R . . . from the shape of the frame looks like one of the earlier versions.
Enjoy the ride TWOgether!
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Thanks. Yes, I think it is an early bike. I emailed Burley with the serial number and they basically told me to get lost, they were out of the bike business. No help from them getting a vintage.
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Matt, If your bike has sun-tour components, it is 1994 or earlier. I think that it is probably very close in age to my old '90 Duet, because of the graphics, and the use of the one piece wrap-around chain/seat stays. This gets you pretty close, since they only started to build tandems in 1988. It does look like it was well cared for and lightly ridden, judging by the appearance. These bikes had a very nice "Glasurit" finish applied to them when new. This was a high quality polyurethane paint that proved to be very durable. I found my bike to weigh about 5 or 6 lbs more (with its straight-gauge tubing) than a similar vintage steel Santana, but I was always pleased with the workmanship and finish on it.
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Thanks. Yes, I think it is an early bike. I emailed Burley with the serial number and they basically told me to get lost, they were out of the bike business. No help from them getting a vintage.
You can check out what your bike has with the specs at BikePedia. For example, here is a comparison of a 1993 and 1994 Burley Rock 'N Roll. The 1993 has Suntour and the 1994 Shimano.
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. . . and the Burley (new) was about 1/3rd the price of a 'tana!
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Looks like the bike has Shimano Deore XT.

Thanks for the very helpful input, everyone. I appreciate it.

The previous owner was the owner of a bike shop here in town, so components may have been changed at some point from original spec, who knows. The rims seem to match '93 spec, and the componentry '94. Anyway, probably close enough as a general idea of the year.

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Your bike looks great!
We are new tandemers with a Burley Rock n' Roll too (ours is a '96, as far as I can tell based upon componentry)
Check back in with ride reports and updates! (and more pictures!)

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