Calfee might diagree with you......................
Tetra tandem with S and S Machine couplers for travel and our Di2 Internal Battery and Wiring System weighs less than 28 pounds and is ready to race. You no longer have to compromise. Calfee is doing for the tandem world in 2011 what it did for the single world in 1987; building a lighter, stronger, stiffer more absorbent frame that is faster and more fun to ride. Beyond the frame, complete personalization of the component group and parts kit allows for tandem bike builds that are far more exciting and, simply, better than the rest!
High-end is relative, e.g., Dave Bohm's Bohemiam from the NAHBS show a few years back is probably of the the more high-end frames you'll find despite being of steel construction with stainless steel lugs, S&S couplings and many hundreds of hours of other design, fabrication and finish details.
Our Custom Tetra Travel Tandem was easily more "high-end" than a Dragonfly or Paketa, just not as light or exotic.
Not trying to be argumentative, just adding some context for frame characterizations like "highest-end", "best", etc...
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Landshark will also make a custom carbon tandem frame.
We have a CoMo S&S Campy equipped tandem and an older CoMo Double E (also Campy 10, upgraded from Mavic). One remaining tandem wish is for a light, aero kit and Landshark would be able to craft something special.
I'll second the reliability comment above. My "dream tandem" would be light but strong, stiff yet compliant, stable but nimble, its wheels would always stay true and of course never get flats! I would also spring for the upgrade to the "wind is always at you back" option as well.
it is a dream tandem!
I do not like the appearance of Dave's bikes at all. They are certainly works of art but I prefer my Calfee Tetra.
If it were not for current budget restraints (mine) I would have bought a dragonfly and equipped it with Lighting cranks and the Gates belt drive. And other exotic componets, it would be very similar to Ritterviews bike but it would use Shimano components rather than Campy.
I am very happy with our dream bike. Even if it does weigh 30 pounds.
adj. Informal 1. Appealing to sophisticated and discerning customers: a high-end department store; high-end video equipment.
2. Sophisticated and discerning: books targeted to the high-end consumer.
Now I am going to have to figure out if I am sophisticated and discerning before rejoining the fray
Here is our dream tandem. You can search for the "Calfee's here" thread title. In it's first year it got some extra 40 spoke Phil Wood wheels and took a pleasant trip to the Dordorgne. Now about 5K miles and no regrets. You may not think you're in a hurry, but the 6 month wait after you commit needs to be factored in.
While I was waiting for this, I hoped for someone to post some pics of a Calfee with simple
clearcoat. Well no-one did, so here's ours, hope you like it as much as we do. 9-speed
antique build with some newer touches. The frame is slighter larger than large at the front
with extra stiff top tube. I really like the lines and it rides nicely too!
You can just see the hole where the payments go (actually it's the drag brake stop)
54, 44, 28 9-speed Chainwheels came in silver, which matches the FD6503 nicely.
Brake cable line a bit convoluted, but stops fine. SRAM FORCE brakes work really well after V's
Yes it has a belt and lightning cranks. I'm not that retro... Oh and a Lezyne minipump.
Hard to see the N-stop jump stop, but it's there. 3 brake options just in case.
Had to use some side load cages in places, but they look solid
Hope the Rolfs hold up to our weight!
Is the Thudbuster necessary? Since switching to the Fizik Vesta saddle, the stoker says she is very comfortable on our Calfee with a carbon seatpost. One way to gauge the relative comfort of a tandem frame, is to see what percentage of teams for the model use a Thudbuster. Calfee's, I'll warrant, have one of the lower Thudbuster percentages.
Originally Posted by CaneCreek
On your crank, I note that you have the early model Lightning spyder. This was a modified half-bike spyder, I think TA-Specialties.
Lightning has a new tandem specific spyder, which is claimed to be more robust. I think it looks better too. It is 130/74 BCD. Note that the inner hole on the spider is threaded, it is the 74 BCD for the triple. You might want to contact Lightning, and get the new spider.
With old spider, and DA chainrings:
With new spider, and TA chainrings (the TA chainrings are shifting fine, BTW):
2006 Co-Motion Roadster, flat bars, discs and carbon fibre fork, size 22 / 19
2006 Ventana ECDM full suspension mountain tandem
Some single bikes and a couple of KTM's
And most important, someone special that enjoys them with me (except the KTM's)
Where is the best place to get the Lighting tandem cranks? Best price?
Specialized S Works spiders will also fit the Lightning cranks. The aluminum ones are the stiffest. They will set your rings out away from the frame about 3-4mm more than the Lightning spiders.
I had Lightning cranks on our Paketa V2r. I had to remove them as they spiders are too flexy for that application with a gates belt drive. For a full report on this, contact Dave at Paketa. He has my Lightnings over there now experimenting with them with different set ups.
Thanks for the info on the new spider, will definitely go that way if we replace. We also use the TA Alize rings and find them to work well - few rings are available in the 54/44 sizes we like.
Ok, well our dream tandem isn't quite as high a most here, we'd be thrilled with a custom built Di Vinci with IPS, but with our funds, it's more like a "fantasy"!
Take care, RIDE SAFE, have FUN!
1993 Mongoose Switchback Ridged MTB, converted to a "Rail Trail Bike"! :)
My dream (right now) is the Specialized carbon fiber concept tandem I saw briefly in an ad during the TdF. If you search on it you can find a few more pictures. We won't be ready for it for a lot of miles yet. We think a lot more would be expected of us if we showed up with something like that.
So after a lot of discussion and research we have decided to put our dream tandem wedding present on hold for a while. Due to financial and other considerations we have decided to upgrade but not that much. We are thinking a Co-motion Primera or speedster. These would be equivalent to what we already have, a Santana Fusion set up for the road, but the fit on the Fusion isn’t perfect especially for the captain and we aren’t completely satisfied with the Santana. We will be test riding Co-motions tomorrow. The dealer also carries Davincis so we are opening our minds and trying one of those as well. I’m not sure we will like the ICS but how will we know if we don’t try it? Finally, please continue to post information about your dream tandem as this has been an interesting thread.
Definitely. Due to my height we were only able to test ride a Periscope on Saturday (it was the only one they had that I could stand over...damned short legs), but the difference in handling between it and the Santana was amazing. If you'd told me a year ago that I would love riding a bicycle with fast handling I would have told you you were out of your mind. The Primera may not be our ultimate "dream" tandem (we saw a custom Calfee Dragonfly that made our jaws drop), but the shorter top tube, the faster handling, and admittedly the paint I picked out should at least work as our "for now" dream tandem. :-)
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A Co-Motion Speedster Co-Pilot is our dream bike. It is lightweight, responsive, and rides like a dream. When travelling, it goes into its two cases and rides inside our Jeep Wrangler.
Behind every good captain is a great stoker!
Co-Motion Speedster Co-Pilot
Well, I'm late to the party but that's okay because I see your finance plans changed, which is good since I was going to bring this discussion back down to earth anyway.
We're very content with our aluminum road tandem that is 36 pounds. Except:
- I wish it had a rear disc brake or maybe disc brakes front+rear.
- I wish it had a little wider chainstays for the option to run cyclocross tires once a year on a rails-to-trails tour.
- I wish it had couplers.
- I'm happy our's has fender mount points front+rear with rack mount points on rear seat-stays.
- Happy our's has fairly strong wheels that are low maintenance, even if they're heavier than some.
(We've never test ridden any CF or magnesium bikes, so I imagine ignorance is bliss! I plan to keep it that way!)