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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarabelle View Post
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    Isn't it sad how we keep supporting businesses that ship jobs overseas. I've not regretted buying my American made Co-Motion tandem. My next bike will probably be by Bike Friday.
    Well said. I'd bet $ against Cannondale building tandems again. They are no longer building bikes; they now build commodities and there isn't enough demand to justify building tandems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMK View Post
    Interesting, but why?
    Sometimes a hard tail is all you need, single or tandem.

    It was just the right tool for the job on the less gonzo trails around here, like Yellow River & it would be right at home on our new trails near the house at Allatoona Creek.

    On the more technical terrain the Ventana comes into its own. But, there's just something about a hard tail... as well as the luxury of having your pick of different bikes to use on different terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TandemGeek View Post
    Sometimes a hard tail is all you need, single or tandem.

    It was just the right tool for the job on the less gonzo trails around here, like Yellow River & it would be right at home on our new trails near the house at Allatoona Creek.

    On the more technical terrain the Ventana comes into its own. But, there's just something about a hard tail... as well as the luxury of having your pick of different bikes to use on different terrain.
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    "paid dearly for my made-in-the USA Calfee Dragonfly frame, Enve rims, handlebar, stem, seatposts, eebrakes, and Lightning cranks, that was assembled in the USA. I didn't set out with any strong made-in-the-USA preference, but each component was selected because I thought it was the best. Selecting for the best ended up being very high in the Made-in-USA content."

    Nicely stated. We have a tetra tandem on the way. Lots of American parts too. A little more money, but I looked over the part spec very carefully, and it's hard to beat American made. We're fellow North Americans with home grown (True North) singles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfarwell View Post
    [ We have a tetra tandem on the way. Lots of American parts too. A little more money, but I looked over the part spec very carefully, and it's hard to beat American made. We're fellow North Americans with home grown (True North) singles.
    Then you might want ask Hugh Black of True North about making one of these very fine, home grown, custom-length titanium stoker stems, eh?


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    Well, it looks like the Cannondale imports have landed at Alger Bikes in Wyoming, Michigan....

    Cannondale RT1

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    That picture looks familiar.
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    To holler More, More, More

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    Quote Originally Posted by TandemGeek View Post
    Well, it looks like the Cannondale imports have landed at Alger Bikes in Wyoming, Michigan....

    Cannondale RT1

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    That is a great find, TG. The whole 2014 RT-1 has been stealth, likely catching the NSA by surprise. I've done searches for Cannondale, 2014, tandem, RT-1 and found nothing, even now. Maybe its just because nobody cares about tandems.

    That is an aluminum(?) fork? Shoulda been carbon.

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    Looks like lots of tire clearance on fork and possibly the rear triangle.

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    Its almost as if Cannondale refuses to put the specs and geometry info on their website.
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    More pics, and some info from the Alger FB site, taken from a Cannondale 2014 release event at Silver Lake Lodge in Deer Valley Ski Resort, Park City.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alger Bikes
    The fork is Aluminum [], it's very similar to the fork Cannondale is using for their 29'er Single Speed MTB (I have one if you want to see it). Wheels are DT Swiss, Cranks FSA SLK Light (belt timing), Ultegra components, BB7 disc brakes.








    Edit:

    The event whence come the pics:

    Last edited by Ritterview; 06-27-13 at 02:15 PM.

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    Here's a pic of the RT-2:



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    Chapeau to brother TeamTi700 / Rick for giving me a heads-up on the additional photos of the "T1" tandem taken by their LBS bud Brian at the Cannondale Press Camp / Dealer Camp in Park City, Utah this week. Instead of posting them here, I opted to do a more comprehensive blog entry this afternoon.

    http://tandemgeek.wordpress.com/2013...annondale-rt1/

    There's also a photo of the 29er out there that was taken, along with the photo of the T2 that brother Ritter found in the Road Bike Review forums, by Dan Gerous who cross-posted the photos of both tandems to his RBR & his FB page.
    29r_1.jpg

    As I note at the end of my blog entry, the arrivals of these new tandems from Taiwan represent a bitter/sweet moment for me. I'm glad to see C'dale staying in the tandem business and offering some entry-level price point models, but it kills me to see the bikes coming from across the Pacific.

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    Per tandemgeek and others sources, 29" long stoker compartment using 66t gates. Interesting, were they seeking another 1/2" for some reason, or that's how the frame turned out and a solution from Gates was sought? A 1/2" longer stoker compartment would not seem a factor in selling one tandem over another. FWIW, Paketa has engineered and fab'd a 29" length stoker compartment frame with the 66t gates for one team in the last month that felt that length was important, and made in the good 'ol USA.
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    Anybody know the fork axle-crown dimension for the 29? I'm trying to compare head tube/stack numbers.
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    All the specs say that the brakes are BB7's, but from the pictures they look more like the Shimano cable road disc models to me (CX75 or R515). I've been using those on a couple of single bikes, and have been really pleased - they feel more solid and powerful than the BB7's, and I've been thinking of putting one on the back of our tandem, so this would be a good choice for Cannondale to make. Can anyone confirm what brakes they are on the new Cannondales?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_W View Post
    ... from the pictures they look more like the Shimano cable road disc models to me (CX75 or R515).
    Concur... The calipers on those bikes are definitely not Avid BB7s. The one photo of the rear wheel / derailleur side clearly shows what appears to be a Shimano mechanical CX75 or R515 as you note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_W View Post
    All the specs say that the brakes are BB7's, but from the pictures they look more like the Shimano cable road disc models to me (CX75 or R515)...
    I emailed the pics and links to Mel at Tandems East for his take, asking if he had any more info...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mel at Tandems East
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    Given that the rest of the equipment is Ultegra, then we should assume that the brakes are the Shimano CX75 (I believe that the R515 model is designed for the slightly different cable pull ratio of Tiagra levers and below). It's also interesting to see a 2014 bike with an Ultegra triple drivetrain. There is not yet a triple version of the new Ultegra 6800 11-speed group, so maybe Shimano will continue to official offer the 6703 triple drivetrain.

    One more interesting thing is that the spec list given on TG's blog states an XTR rear derailleur (so presumably a MTB cassette), but the pictures clearly show an Ultegra RD and a road cassette, so maybe this is not yet completely decided.

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    Strange that the RT-1 (or is it just T-1?) has cantilever brake bosses but the RT-2 does not. Seems like they couldn't make up their mind on what brakes to fit...

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    The other good news is that Cannondale WILL be bringing these into Europe because they were shown at some Euro' dealer events this week (this was never a certainty because they make certain models for certain markets only, happily this is not the case for the tandems).

    Edit: In fact, we won't be getting the Road Tandem 1, but we will get the Road Tandem 2 and 29er versions.
    Last edited by Chris_W; 07-24-13 at 11:59 PM.

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    For our Australian friends...

    Just had a note from Cannondale Australia saying they are likely to have road tandems available here at some stage. This is great news. The last of the old (USA-built) bikes were snapped up very quickly when it became evident production and import had ceased.


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    Here is a listing for the Cannondale 2014 tandem, and an official pic, from an Italian website.



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    Guess they're shipping large production lots via container ships from Taiwan....

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