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Old 02-19-13, 12:24 PM   #1
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Q: What's worse that telling your stoker to pedal harder?

A: Leaving her behind after a stop.

On our first ride of 'spring' last weekend, I slowed and stopped where the rail grade trail we were on crossed a road.

Seeing that the way was clear, I announced "Three, two, one, we're off!" and pedaled across the road. "Wow," I thought, "She's so smooth, and it's our first ride of the year. This is going to be a great season." The bike accelerated especially well and I was very impressed with the apparently effortless power from behind.

After about a quarter of a mile, I looked back to be sure that the other rider with us was on our wheel. I got a very clear view of Carl about a hundred yards back, pedaling for all he was worth to catch up and yelling, "I think you forgot something."

Somehow I did not notice when my stoker slipped off the bike to walk over and press the walk button for the cross walk. Fortunately, upon my hasty return, she was laughing pretty hard. I had no idea it was even possible to ride off without noticing one was solo...

You learn something every day I guess.
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A: Leaving her behind after a stop.

On our first ride of 'spring' last weekend, I slowed and stopped where the rail grade trail we were on crossed a road.

Seeing that the way was clear, I announced "Three, two, one, we're off!" and pedaled across the road. "Wow," I thought, "She's so smooth, and it's our first ride of the year. This is going to be a great season." The bike accelerated especially well and I was very impressed with the apparently effortless power from behind.

After about a quarter of a mile, I looked back to be sure that the other rider with us was on our wheel. I got a very clear view of Carl about a hundred yards back, pedaling for all he was worth to catch up and yelling, "I think you forgot something."

Somehow I did not notice when my stoker slipped off the bike to walk over and press the walk button for the cross walk. Fortunately, upon my hasty return, she was laughing pretty hard. I had no idea it was even possible to ride off without noticing one was solo...

You learn something every day I guess.
Oh man! Thank you for that.
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what we've got here is failure to communicate.
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I'm only guilty of doing this once in 4+ years of tandeming. We were doing a day of riding over Swiss Alpine passes with some friends. After the photos at the top of the final pass (St Gotthard), everyone was ready to go, and so was I - until I was informed by my stoker that I wasn't on my single bike, and maybe I should wait for her to get on instead of leaving her at the top of the mountain. WHOOPS! Fortunately, I had only managed about half a pedal revolution before she informed me of my mistake, so I wasn't in TOO much trouble.
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That was my chuckle for the afternoon, thanks for sharing.

My usual stunt is dumping my stoker when I think she wants of and is just shifting about, but we just got a bike of a more appropriate size so that shouldn't be an issue anymore.
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Q: What's worse that telling your stoker to pedal harder?
My first impression was... Nothing!

A: Leaving her behind after a stop.
Well, OK, I guess that would be worse.

Oops!

I would say something comical, but it might be me in trouble next time
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Too Funny!

Sometimes at extended stops, my stoker will get off the bike without me knowing it. I don't know how she does it without me noticing her getting off the bike. I think we get so used to each other on the bike that it all seems to happen automatically without much thought going into it.
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Definitely not cool. Candlelight and dinner after the ride?
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You guys must be doing something wrong. Our start sequence is dictated by my stoker signaling that she's clipped in, often its getting whacked in the shin when she's clipping in that does it ("oh, sorry, I'm in"). I never start until I get the ok signal, plus we use the stoker accelerate method to start where I make one down-stroke to get up on the saddle while she powers us up to a stable speed until I can clip in.
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Nah - beer and fried gizzards at the Red Dog Tavern in Maple Valley. What can I say? I'm a romantic like that.
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You guys must be doing something wrong. Our start sequence is dictated by my stoker signaling that she's clipped in, often its getting whacked in the shin when she's clipping in that does it ("oh, sorry, I'm in"). I never start until I get the ok signal, plus we use the stoker accelerate method to start where I make one down-stroke to get up on the saddle while she powers us up to a stable speed until I can clip in.
DC; Completely agree...but might want to be cautious less some from the "there ain't no Proper Method of doing something xxx on a tandem" crowd jumps on your back [;-)
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Thanks for the laugh!
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Telling her to HTFU. Believe me, I know.
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Somehow I did not notice when my stoker slipped off the bike to walk over and press the walk button for the cross walk. I had no idea it was even possible to ride off without noticing one was solo.
I've done this.
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Eating beans/Mexican food the night before a ride TWOgether . . .
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DC; Completely agree...but might want to be cautious less some from the "there ain't no Proper Method of doing something xxx on a tandem" crowd jumps on your back [;-)
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When you have a spat before a hill and the stoker refuses to pedal.

Or the stoker telling the captain to pedal harder right in the middle of a leg cramp because he is dehydrated from giving the stoker more than their share of water during a 100 mile ride.
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It's a hot 10% climb 40 miles into a 100K. Captain is done in so we walk. Stoker walks too slow for captain (who is pushing the bike) so captain gets back on the bike and rides away from the stoker. What is the captain's next move:
a) heads home and get his affairs in order?
b) Heads home, clears out the accounts, gets a false identify and moves overseas
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When you have a spat before a hill and the stoker refuses to pedal.

Or the stoker telling the captain to pedal harder right in the middle of a leg cramp because he is dehydrated from giving the stoker more than their share of water during a 100 mile ride.

Yes, agree, especially about the water. BTW, it's worse off-road on 100 mile technical ride. That's a lot of time to pretend deafness.

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Telling her to HTFU. Believe me, I know.
Amen my friend. I have actually ridden partially away from a SAG without my stoker on a few rides. When she complains I explain if she can talk she's not pedaling hard enough. Shortly thereafter my legs begin to hurt. Shortly after that, I find a soft trail feature (normally some brush) to "remind her who steers this beast and that she should pedal. Almost without words, we gel and life is good and the ride continues normally. She is a good sport. I get too serious. When I am play riding she gets too serious. When we focus we do ok.

If I leave her this weekend I'll give an update. Not sure what or where we will ride. Invited to a 80 plus mile off-road ride, or maybe we should get in a 100 mile ride on-road in prep for Sebring.

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I can't imagine that happening to me. On one ride, I dropped the stoker off at a store, then pedaled a 100 yards to a convenience store. The effort is not necessarily that different, but the bike handling is, dramatically so.

That reminds me that one time last summer, I did around 500 miles on the tandem without any intervening rides on my single bike. So I get back on my single bike, turn a corner, and something's wrong. Feels like something is loose. I stop and check everything and all is well. Figured out, it was just because I got use to the tandem handling, and the single bike just felt so different, no weight back there.
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Amen my friend. I have actually ridden partially away from a SAG without my stoker on a few rides. When she complains I explain if she can talk she's not pedaling hard enough. Shortly thereafter my legs begin to hurt. Shortly after that, I find a soft trail feature (normally some brush) to "remind her who steers this beast and that she should pedal. Almost without words, we gel and life is good and the ride continues normally. She is a good sport. I get too serious. When I am play riding she gets too serious. When we focus we do ok.
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A: Leaving her behind after a stop.

" The bike accelerated especially well and I was very impressed with the apparently effortless power from behind."
I think that if your wife is reading this forum you just committed a much greater sin.
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Another slightly related anecdote:

While touring around New Zealand on our tandem and wearing matching jerseys, I dropped my wife off at a grocery store to get some refreshments, while I continued a little further along the street to look at a map of town on the other side. I then waited for my wife, and a passerby came up to me to tell me that my wife was in the grocery store - Thanks, but I knew that already. When my wife joins me, she tells me a story about how a completely different person came up to her in the grocery store to tell her that her husband was on the other side of the street by the map! What helpful people!

Apparently seeing two tandem riders more than two meters apart is cause for some concern for people, and they believe that you must be looking for each other. It seems that it is very difficult to lose your partner in New Zealand as long as you're wearing the same jerseys.
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Telling her to lose weight... : 0
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