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    Help! Any idea what this is worth?

    I know....what someone will pay for it. My parents cant ride it anymore and I encouraged my dad to let some other lucky couple enjoy it. I know how much I love time on my Vespa that was sitting in someones garage collecting dust or riding the National Forrest roads in the NC mountains on my DRZ 400 that was also going unridden in a garage. THIS BIKE IS IMMACULATE! It was repainted by Rodney Moseman another custom frame bulider.
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    1981 Jim Redcay custom built marathon frame tandem. This bike is a classic filet brazed frame designed for a 6'5" captain and 5'7" stoker and specifically constructed for loaded touring by one of the premier American frame builders of the 1970s and 80s. The frame is Ishiwata chrome moly tubing (manufactured for Santana Cycles) with braze-ons for eight water bottles, fenders, front and rear racks, pump peg, all cable bosses and two spare spokes on the right chain stay. Top tubes are slanted and parallel for artistic symmetry. The bike was upgraded in 1996 by Rodney Moseman of Lititz, PA to accommodate indexed shifting, add bottle braze-ons and low rider rack bosses on the fork. Components include 48-hole Phil Wood Field Serviceable hubs laced to Velocity Dyad rims, Phil Wood sealed bottom brackets, Shimano Deore cantilever brakes, Shimano bar end shifters, and Phil Wood disk drag brake. Crank set is a Sugino Fuse 500 with 42 tooth synchronizing chain rings and triple drive crank set (20x36x46) and 8-speed XTR Shimano cassette. Front and rear derailleurs are Shimano Deore XT. Captainís saddle is Brooks B-17 on Campagnolo Nuovo Record seatpost; stokerís is a Selle Italia Royal Gel on Ascent 252 Suspension Seatpost. Captainís pedals are Shimano M535 SPD and Stoker's are MKS platform with toe clips and straps. Bike comes with Blackburn front and rear racks and low riders and color matching Silca pump. A second Campagnolo Nuovo Record seatpost can be included for stoker saddle as well as an adjustable stoker stem and cow horn bars. A pair of brand new Continental Ultra Gatorskin tires, 700x28 are included.
    Dimensions (cm unless otherwise specified):
    Wheelbase: 169.9
    Top Tubes (ctr-ctr) F/R: 57.5/62.5
    Seat Tubs (ctr-top) F/R: 66/52.3
    Seat tube ID: 27.2mm
    Standover height at middle of top tubes: F/R: 91.5/87.5
    Captain's Stem: 100 mm Cinelli
    Stoker's Stem: 110 mm Custom Redcay
    Bottom Bracket Height F/R: 27.5/27.5
    Chain Stay Length: 44

    Thanks for your suggestions.

    John B.

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    WOW . . . what a beauty!

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    Jim Redcay was a very well regarded builder back in those days and have only seen one of his tandems and a couple of his single bikes.
    Meticulous workmanship and top of the line componentry and looks like the bike was well maintained.
    The size/fit and age will be difficult to find a buyer.
    However, having dealt in tandems a bit would suggest $1,000 asking price, but be willing to negotiate down.
    Much in componentry/frame materials has changed; but to a couple who is the right size/fit/collector it would be a nice acquisition.
    We are a long-time tandeming couple (since 1975) and now 81/79 years old we still enjoy riding our tandem.
    Hope this helps . . .
    Rudy and Kay/zonatandem
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    Because of the quality and condition my initial thought was exactly the same as zona's - $1000. However, even though I believe that's what it's worth, it's a major question as to whether you can find someone who is in the market for that kind of bike and is willing to pay what it's worth, so there's a very good chance that you'll have to settle for less. How much less depends on how long you're willing to wait for the right buyer to come along.

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    Size makes a big difference. A couple of weeks ago there were nearly identical Cannondale tandems for sale on eBay at the same time. They were made in 2010 and 2011 but otherwise identical other than one being for a tall captain and the other for a short captain. The auctions also had nearly identical starting prices, but ultimately the short one sold for $3000 and the tall one for $2500 despite having fewer miles on it. The fact that this tandem is built for such a tall captain is going to put a limit on what it can sell for. At 6'3", I'm probably about the shortest rider that bike could fit, and if I recall the statistics correctly I think less than 5% of American men are taller than me.

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    That is a beautiful bike, I'm sure your folks we proud owners and enjoyed riding it. As a tall rider I know the limited market for larger bikes but that would be a great bike for someone. There are a couple of Tandem specific web boards where you can list this when you are ready. It would appear you are in the Mid Atlantic area which has a significant population mass.
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    You may also find that websites devoted to advertising used tandems will attract real tandem enthusiasts. Who knows, they might better appreciate what the bike is worth! Try searching Google for "used tandem bicycles for sale".
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    I have noticed in the past that taller-than-average single bikes tend to bring less than average sizes. There aren't too many 6'-5" captains around.
    The "custom" frame is all well and good if it's customized for you, but if customized for somebody else, it doesn't add any value and may take it away. (A friend of mine mentioned to beware of custom frames (single bikes), as people would order geometry they thought would work well, then wind up with a bike that is nearly unstable, so off it goes to Ebay!)
    The older components may be perfectly usable but make it harder to sell, also.
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    Thanks for all the feedback. I had thought about the same probably ask $1000 but would be lucky to get it because it is a small market. The don't need the $ but would like it to get some use.
    John

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    The original poster has said that their motives are to see it used. Rather than the likely lower than desired final sale price, how about finding a local charity that uses tandems to ride with people who would otherwise be unable to ride? The large size might allow volunteer captains that could not fit the charity's fleet to ride.

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