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    Clipless in Coeur d'Alene twocicle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe@vwvortex View Post
    Ordered the wheels today from prowheelbuilder.com - $810 shipped to my door. Opted to go with db spokes instead of the x-rays due to our team weight - with Sapim Strongs for the rear wheel. Wound up at 1,925 grams for the set. A bit heavier than originally planned but compared to the Rolfs which are currently listed at 1,885 not a big difference. I can live with the 40 gram increase in weight in exchange hopefully for a bit more durability and the ability to lace up a new rim myself if something happens.

    Front Hub
    WHITE INDUSTRIES MI6 DISK BLACK FRONT HUB
    |Drillings 32
    |Axle Width QR 100mm
    Front Lacing Pattern
    Lacing: Three Cross
    Front Nipple
    SAPIM POLYAX 14MM 14 GAUGE BLACK ALLOY NIPPLE
    Front Rim
    KINLIN XC279 FRONT 700C BLACK RIM
    |Drillings 32
    |Size 700c / 29er
    Front Spoke
    SAPIM RACE J BEND BLACK SPOKES 2 x 1.8 x 2

    Wheel Build Weight
    878.184

    Rear Wheel
    Rear Hub
    WHITE INDUSTRIES MI6 TANDEM DISK BLACK REAR HUB
    |Drillings 32
    |Axle Width QR 145mm
    |Ti Campy 9,10 or 11spd
    Rear Lacing Pattern
    Lacing: Three Cross
    Rear Nipple
    SAPIM POLYAX 14MM 14 GAUGE BLACK ALLOY NIPPLE
    Rear Rim
    KINLIN XC279 REAR 700C BLACK RIM
    |Drillings 32
    |Size 700c / 29er
    Rear Spoke
    SAPIM STRONG J BEND BLACK SPOKES 2 x 2.3
    Wheel Build Weight
    1047.184
    Recommend switching to BRASS nipples especially for tandem use. Alloy can gall on non-eyeleted rims so you'd need to use washers to prevent that. Also they can strip, corrode and crack - tandems put a lot more stress into wheels than singles where alloys are ok. Go for durability and no headaches with brass.

    Sapim Race or DT Comp (similar) front & rear would be fine unless you plan to do loaded touring or Roubaix.
    Last edited by twocicle; 07-20-14 at 10:06 AM.

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    Senior Member joe@vwvortex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by twocicle View Post
    Recommend switching to BRASS nipples especially for tandem use. Alloy can gall on non-eyeleted rims so you'd need to use washers to prevent that. Also they can strip, corrode and crack - tandems put a lot more stress into wheels than singles where alloys are ok. Go for durability and no headaches with brass.

    Sapim Race or DT Comp (similar) front & rear would be fine unless you plan to do loaded touring or Roubaix.
    Updated the order - subsituted the Sapim Race for the Sapim Strong on the rear and went with the brass nipples on both wheels. I didn't think of the corrosion issue - always have built rims with eyelets and in talking with the builders they agreed that it could be an issue down the road. I was on the fence with the Strong spokes to begin with - and the trade-off with the brass nipples brought the weight down a bit to be almost equal to the original build. Not that I'm a weight weenie - but wanted to keep them in that range.

    The customer service from prowheelbuilder.com has been outstanding. They have responded incredibly quickly to all my inquiries and have made the changes I've requested immediately.
    Last edited by joe@vwvortex; 07-21-14 at 09:54 AM.
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    I've literally had old alloy nipples crumble in my hands. +1 on the switch to brass, its well worth the weight penalty.
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    Senior Member joe@vwvortex's Avatar
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    Wheels arrived yesterday. Nicely packaged and all the info on the build included, spoke tension etc. Very happy with the purchase. Put them on last night and we'll take the tandem out tonight for our evening ride.

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    Clipless in Coeur d'Alene twocicle's Avatar
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    Nice.

    I don't recall what you were previously riding but be sure to adjust tire pressure for the new rim width/volume. We dropped ~10psi when we switched to these 23mm wide rims from 18.5mm rims.

    I'll have to reweigh our set with the new CLD 135mm hub, maybe do that this winter. I think the current build is something like 1750gm + skewers (Salsa) and rim tape (Zipp).
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    Quote Originally Posted by twocicle View Post
    Nice.

    I don't recall what you were previously riding but be sure to adjust tire pressure for the new rim width/volume. We dropped ~10psi when we switched to these 23mm wide rims from 18.5mm rims.

    I'll have to reweigh our set with the new CLD 135mm hub, maybe do that this winter. I think the current build is something like 1750gm + skewers (Salsa) and rim tape (Zipp).
    We are on 28mm GP 4000's. Ran at 120psi on the Rolfs. Currently at 110 psi for it's maiden voyage.

    I was a bit concerned about the quality of the Kinlins - but they appear to be very nicely made. Time will tell.
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