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Old 07-16-09, 11:02 AM   #1
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Dallas to Houston ... who and how long?

I'm new to the spot and was thinking about biking from Dallas to Houston. Has anybody done this lately?

I always hear about the ATX to HOU but never the Big D to HOU ... why is this?

Any suggested paths I should take?

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Old 07-16-09, 01:20 PM   #2
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same answer I always give: get to a bookstore or big office supply place and get this:




it shows _all_ of the roads, even the gravel county roads. You can avoid the busy highways, the nasty glass-strewn shoulders, the 70mph traffic and enjoy the countryside.
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Old 07-16-09, 02:33 PM   #3
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I can give you good directions if you wanna start from Corpus.
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The operative question is not who, or how long, it's WHEN? And the answer is NOT during our 6-7 months of summer.
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Old 07-17-09, 07:11 PM   #5
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Engyo ... very true. Thinking about the Oct or Sept time frame.
Creakyknees ... I heading to the book store tonight.

Have any of ya'll made the ride?
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just go up 45...shouldn't take more than a few days.
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Thehappyrobot ... right I'll just stay in the left lane
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I haven't heard of anyone or group doing a Dallas to Houston ride. You may want to call Bikin' Mike to see what he knows about a ride like this. I think he sponsors other week-long rides in Big Bend National Park.

I'll be watching this thread for sure.
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Old 07-20-09, 08:28 AM   #11
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I know someone that did it in the 80s. Have no clue what route he used, though.

The big question is this: Where in Houston to where in Dallas?
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Griffin ... any suggestions on where to start and stop? Next weekend I'm thinking about making the drive and scouting out some possible roads and break areas.

It's basically 300 miles so I'm guessing about 5 days?

I have heard quite a bit about Bikn' Mike but I don't have is number. He is in Austin right ... heard he is quite the go to guy for Texas biking.
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No, he is in Dallas. Bikinmike.com

Another place to contact would be the Lone Star Randoneurs

You should be able to get from anywhere to anywhere in Dallas. Houston, on the other hand is a different story. You might have to stop in say the Woodlands.

And I woudl say probably add a couple of hundred miles for the rouds you will have to take. Looking at at least 5 days, if you do about 100 miles per day.
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F*** Me ... you think it's going to add an extra 200 miles to the trip to avoid major roads and cities like The Woodlands. Now I know why not too many people make the ride ... and now I want to make the ride even more

100 miles per day is pretty aggressive for me and my legs. I appreciate the suggestions ... keep them coming.
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I rode Dallas-Houston in, hmmm, 1982 I think. I went east through Tyler, then south through the great pine forrests and then the Big Thicket, approaching Houston from the east. If I was doing it these days, I'd probably stay west, more in the Post Oak Belt.

One think about Roads of Texas, it doesn't indicate which highways are death-defying, overloaded two lanes with no shoulders and which are nearly empty, wide and pleasant, nor does it accurately indicate which little county roads are really chip sealed and which are mud, sand and/or loose rock.

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I rode Dallas-Houston in, hmmm, 1982 I think. I went east through Tyler, then south through the great pine forrests and then the Big Thicket, approaching Houston from the east. If I was doing it these days, I'd probably stay west, more in the Post Oak Belt.

One think about Roads of Texas, it doesn't indicate which highways are death-defying, overloaded two lanes with no shoulders and which are nearly empty, wide and pleasant, nor does it accurately indicate which little county roads are really chip sealed and which are mud, sand and/or loose rock.

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How much of an adventure is it to have 100% knowledge of every surface, traffic pattern, prevailing breeze and climb between pt's A & B? Why is it necessary to homogenize the exitement - to reduce every variable to a known quantity? Isn't it the risk and successful surmounting of the ordeal that makes a trip exciting?

Isn't it cooler to go out with with just enough knowledge to stay alive and an attitude that says, "This ride is gonna kick copious amounts of ass!" and then make it so, in spite of the hard parts?
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You would not have to avoid The Woodlands. Riding there is a pleasure. Some of the small towns between here and there might be a different story...

I was looking, and another route you could use is Hwy 6...get to Waco (FWBA has a Fort Worth to Waco route...)

Another option is is old Hwy 75. It pretty much parallels 45. There would be a few spots where you would have to use the feeder of 45 or find a bypass to avoid using the shoulder of 45...of course, if there is no other way, then the shoulder is legal.

Or, there is tcs's option of going east...of course, in '82 59 would have been rideable, and it would not be now...
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Great advice Griffin ... I saw old 75 and just started looking into. I've been researching quite a few maps (Texas Maps, Mapsco, Rand Mc, etc) but nothing shows anything of detail whether or not the roads are ridable.

Truman ... I'm all about adventure that is why I want to do the ride in the first place. But, I also need to make sure the roads are ridable so it does not end up being a walk from Dallas to Houston
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Wounded Warrior Project Soldier Ride

What can you tell me about the 2010 WW Project Soldier Ride? Have you done it? I have a couple of good buddies who are all wounded vets ... I'm sure they would be interested in making the ride.
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Old 07-23-09, 04:04 PM   #20
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other resources:
www.crazyguyonabike.com - tour journals and a forum
http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/touring/maps.htm - great article on finding "good roads" just by looking at an ordinary highway map.
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If you're a randonneur, there's a RUSA permanent that goes from the Dallas area to Houston, I think. The catch is that randonneuring routes are not necessarily the shortest or flattest routes between two points, so it's not something you'd want to just jump into unprepared.

I think one reason people don't do it more is that by car, the most direct and quickest route, I-45, has got to be one of the most boring stretches of freeway around here.

I haven't checked lately, but I was thinking there were long sections where there wasn't any 75, and also it tends to be narrow with no shoulders, as I recall.
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KMack,

There are a couple of Rando routes that go that way. "Little Egypt", which is organized by George Evans, is 380K and runs from Rockwall to The Woodlands. The second is "Space Shot", organized by Dan Driscoll, is 427K and runs from Arlington to Katy. They are listed on texaspermanents.org, but I don't see maps for them. You can get in touch with either of them on the Lonestar Randonneur discussion group at http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Talk2LSR, or shoot me a PM and I'll give you their email address. What StephenH says about these rides maybe not being the shortest or flastest is true, but I will say that I've ridden lots of routes organized by both of these guys and their routes are sweet! Expect low traffic and good pavement. Also expect to get recruited into the Rando crowd. But if you're interested in a ride of this distance you should be getting into Rando anyway. Best time $20 a year can buy!

On your question about the 2010 WW Project Soldier Ride: This year is a little different, in that they are starting in San Antone and heading toward Dallas. There are a few of us here that have gone the last 2 years, and we all had a GREAT time. We get to ride our bikes and support our heros! What more could you ask for?

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Isn't it the risk and successful surmounting of the ordeal that makes a trip exciting?
You're Gov. Perry's new state-wide bicycle transportation coordinator, aren't you?

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