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Old 12-14-15, 08:59 PM
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Tent Guyline

I was looking at Tent Guyline at REI and I seen that MSR ultralight utility cord is 50ft at $19.95 and MSR reflective ulitity cord 50ft is $22.95 and why is MSR cord not so Cheap??? and why is MSR Stuff so
expensive???


I started to use Tac Shield 550 paracod in olive green and sand tan is 100ft at $7.99 as my Tent Guyline doing Stealth Camping
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Old 12-14-15, 09:48 PM
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what was the question?
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Originally Posted by saddlesores
what was the question?
Why is MSR cord not so cheap??? you can't read!
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Originally Posted by Biketouringhobo
Why is MSR cord not so cheap??? you can't read!
I think it's because the MSR cord is priced higher. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by mantelclock
I think it's because the MSR cord is priced higher. Hope this helps.
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I can't help you with your original question but I will offer my probably undesired opinion and that is I always change out all my tent guy lines to high vis orange, since it makes them so much easier to see and less likely to trip over. It really helps if you do any group touring where tents are often packed so closely together.

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MSR is more expensive because the company decided to price their product higher for a multitude of reasons.

I love REI, but I can't imagine buying products there will be cheaper than elsewhere, typically speaking.
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Paracord is pretty serious overkill for guylines. I might even take the paracord apart and use one of the inner strands. Or buy some mason twine from the hardware store and use that.
Or buy some purpose built guywire from Lawsons and support a small business.

Reflective Glowire Cord at LawsonEquipment.com
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Barely literate ?, its the reflective fibers woven in the braid-sleeve-outside the cord

so the flashlight reflects and at night,you dont trip over your guy lines.
aka 'Trip Ease' .. https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-TripTeas.../dp/B001ANPCSQ

they had to pay the cordage factory extra to get that feature, so you have to pony up the dosh to get it
and make them enough to stay in business another year.

money's more important ? get Mil-Surplus para cord..

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Originally Posted by Biketouringhobo


I started to use Tac Shield 550 paracod in olive green and sand tan is 100ft at $7.99 as my Tent Guyline doing Stealth Camping


Are those militarized, tactical, assault guy lines even legal in California?

Watch you back, dude.
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Some excellent and inexpensive guyline is Western Filament Planer Board Line. I specify the maker, Western Filament, because other planer board line does not seem to have the stiffness or coating that makes this work so well.

Western Filament® Planer Board Line, 150 feet - 52790, Fishing Line at Sportsman's Guide

You can get 150 feet for $6 to $11 rated at either 130 lb or 200 lb. I use the 130 lb for guylines and hanging food bags.

This stuff is inexpensive compared to most guylines, lightweight (it floats), does not absorb water (so it does not gain weight during or after rain, good info for backpackers), and very tough. It holds knots and lashes well, and is somewhat stiff so does not tangle as easily as some other lines.

For the price, I think it is the best line available.
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Originally Posted by andr0id
Are those militarized, tactical, assault guy lines even legal in California?

Watch you back, dude.
I do Stealth Camping alone in California and I am living on SSI and SSDI from USGov so the Tac Shield 100ft was $7.99 a lot cheaper then MSR Utility cord kit 50ft at $22.95
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Originally Posted by fuzz2050
Paracord is pretty serious overkill for guyline[/url]

the Tac Shield 550 para cord is not over kill! and 100ft was $7.99 in olive green and send tan
and I do Mostly Stealth Camping in California

MSR Utility cord kit 50ft $22.95
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Originally Posted by robow
I can't help you with your original question but I will offer my probably undesired opinion and that is I always change out all my tent guy lines to high vis orange, since it makes them so much easier to see and less likely to trip over. It really helps if you do any group touring where tents are often packed so closely together.

I do Solo Bicycle touring in California and I also do Stealth Camping where is says NO TRESSPASSING I also camp alone!
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Rei does sell cord and webbing by the foot. Big Agnes uses reflectorized cord. And I really like the slick coated stuff for bear bagging. Get what you need don't worry so much about the cost.
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It's the carbon fiber in the MSR lines that makes them more expensive and, frankly, superior, to the cheapo stuff you can get at Home Despot for $0.09/ft.
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[QUOTE=Biketouringhobo;18391260]I also do Stealth Camping where is says NO TRESSPASSING /QUOTE] Isn't that illegal in California?
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You can get 100 yds of some twisted/ braided mason line @ big box store for like $6-8.00 in pink.
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Originally Posted by Leebo
You can get 100 yds of some twisted/ braided mason line @ big box store for like $6-8.00 in pink.
Probably does not last for a month long trip, better to get the good stuff!!
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Originally Posted by Squeezebox
Probably does not last for a month long trip, better to get the good stuff!!
I'd bet on the braided stuff lasting a very long time. I used it on my Southern Tier and a good bit of backpacking and it is still pretty much like new. I figure that 155# breaking strength is sufficient. I would avoid the twisted stuff and stick with the braided. I didn't opt for pink though.

750# breaking strength milspec paracord is pretty gross overkill for a UL tour IMO.
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Originally Posted by Biketouringhobo
I do Solo Bicycle touring in California and I also do Stealth Camping where is says NO TRESSPASSING I also camp alone!
Why do you camp where you are most unwelcome and illegal? There's so much land that is not posted.
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I'm still carrying my 35 year-old para-cord that I bought from Sears for $2.00 US.
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Originally Posted by Biketouringhobo
I do Solo Bicycle touring in California and I also do Stealth Camping where is says NO TRESSPASSING I also camp alone!
Since you're receiving "SSI and SSDI from USGov" I'd be careful about breaking the law.
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Originally Posted by BigAura
Since you're receiving "SSI and SSDI from USGov" I'd be careful about breaking the law.
SSA knows I am Homeless by Choice and Rooms 4 Rent is not cheap in California
and As for Steath Camping Spots that say NO TRESSPASSING and NO CAMPING
and I have been Stealth Camping this way since 3-1998 and you can not be seen doing
Stealth Camping and I am in San Diego County in Southern California and my 3 tents are in
Olive green, Moss Green, Shadow green/Moss green and that's why I use Tac Shield para-cord
in Olive green and Sand Tan
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Originally Posted by walter s
why do you camp where you are most unwelcome and illegal? There's so much land that is not posted.
lol
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