Sleeping Pad failures???
12-22-15, 09:41 AM
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On my last tour down the coast, I had not one, but two thermarest evolite pads bubble up on me for no apparent reason, both times early in the morning. Not the nicest way to be woken up lol. After the first one I called cascade designs customer service line, and they overnighted a replacement to the next post office down the coast. About a week later it happened again, I called and they offered to overnight another mattress down to the next post office, and let me choose from any that they carried. The one I chose cost nearly twice as much. Absolutely fabulous customer service.
*also biketouringhobo seems to get a lot of flack for his postings of late and I gotta say it's kinda rude. I know there's a search function blah blah blah, but damn. If someone started a conversation with you on the street would you treat them that way? The mans dealing with a lot of issues and doing quite well it seems to me. Someone reaches out for community and you **** on them. The man is just making conversation, nobodies forcing you to respond. And besides, looking back at a lot of his posts end up becoming multiple page threads.
sorry for the rant.
*also biketouringhobo seems to get a lot of flack for his postings of late and I gotta say it's kinda rude. I know there's a search function blah blah blah, but damn. If someone started a conversation with you on the street would you treat them that way? The mans dealing with a lot of issues and doing quite well it seems to me. Someone reaches out for community and you **** on them. The man is just making conversation, nobodies forcing you to respond. And besides, looking back at a lot of his posts end up becoming multiple page threads.
sorry for the rant.
12-22-15, 09:51 AM
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Deja vu all over again: https://www.bikeforums.net/touring/10...x20x2-4in.html
up too!!!!
yes I saved my 7-2008 ThemaRest Trail pro sleeping pad that puppy put a hole in it on 12-2008
and it was patchs with super glue and duct tape! holds air 16hours
on 12-31-2015 I am getting a new ThermaRest trail pro sleeping pad
Please Stop Trolling me!!!
12-22-15, 10:25 AM
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In my eyes, a troll is someone who enters other peoples threads to post disparaging, inflammatory or divisive remarks designed to provoke a reaction. From what I've seen of BTH, he pretty well behaves himself in other peoples threads. In his own threads, the same predictable people troll him precisely because they know they will provoke a certain response. Predictable because we know he has a mental illness and reacts the same way each time. Gee Whiz, he feels a little persecuted. Perhaps defensiveness is part of that and perhaps it's because in some ways, he actually is being persecuted because he creates posts not of some peoples liking. Why people get their kicks from baiting a mentally ill person I don't know but it's bullying regardless.
Alloy spoke nipples and titanium sporks aside, along with all the other stuff that really doesn't matter on a tour - I'd rather take the time to try and get along with a marginalized poster than chum it up with a sarcastic bully - both on the net and IRL. There are sheep, wolves and sheepdogs in this world and it's pretty easy to see what roles are being assumed by who here. If I'm wrong and he is pulling the wool over my eyes all I'm guilty of is having a little character. If he isn't, some others are guilty of having none. I know which I prefer.
12-22-15, 10:51 AM
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I get it, but the fact is if you don't have anything nice to say you can let a thread die on its own. Fully half the conversation here is about him supposedly, somehow wasting people's time or something when those same people chose to be here and respond. See what I'm saying? Remember the golden rule.
Anyway that's all I have to say on the subject.
Anyway that's all I have to say on the subject.
I am not saying anything about wasted time more about wasted space. Trying to go through a lot of posts and many of them are by the same person about basically the same thing makes forum enjoyment and posting a bit harder.
If I were posting as BTH was posting and people said hey maybe post less or create one thread to ask all your questions in, I would have no issue with it. I would happily have it done onto me because I wasn't being a jerk about it.
12-22-15, 11:00 AM
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What would be interesting is if the Mods had some balls and threw the people who were really trolling this thread off the site.
In my eyes, a troll is someone who enters other peoples threads to post disparaging, inflammatory or divisive remarks designed to provoke a reaction. From what I've seen of BTH, he pretty well behaves himself in other peoples threads. In his own threads, the same predictable people troll him precisely because they know they will provoke a certain response. Predictable because we know he has a mental illness and reacts the same way each time. Gee Whiz, he feels a little persecuted. Perhaps defensiveness is part of that and perhaps it's because in some ways, he actually is being persecuted because he creates posts not of some peoples liking. Why people get their kicks from baiting a mentally ill person I don't know but it's bullying regardless.
Alloy spoke nipples and titanium sporks aside, along with all the other stuff that really doesn't matter on a tour - I'd rather take the time to try and get along with a marginalized poster than chum it up with a sarcastic bully - both on the net and IRL. There are sheep, wolves and sheepdogs in this world and it's pretty easy to see what roles are being assumed by who here. If I'm wrong and he is pulling the wool over my eyes all I'm guilty of is having a little character. If he isn't, some others are guilty of having none. I know which I prefer.
In my eyes, a troll is someone who enters other peoples threads to post disparaging, inflammatory or divisive remarks designed to provoke a reaction. From what I've seen of BTH, he pretty well behaves himself in other peoples threads. In his own threads, the same predictable people troll him precisely because they know they will provoke a certain response. Predictable because we know he has a mental illness and reacts the same way each time. Gee Whiz, he feels a little persecuted. Perhaps defensiveness is part of that and perhaps it's because in some ways, he actually is being persecuted because he creates posts not of some peoples liking. Why people get their kicks from baiting a mentally ill person I don't know but it's bullying regardless.
Alloy spoke nipples and titanium sporks aside, along with all the other stuff that really doesn't matter on a tour - I'd rather take the time to try and get along with a marginalized poster than chum it up with a sarcastic bully - both on the net and IRL. There are sheep, wolves and sheepdogs in this world and it's pretty easy to see what roles are being assumed by who here. If I'm wrong and he is pulling the wool over my eyes all I'm guilty of is having a little character. If he isn't, some others are guilty of having none. I know which I prefer.
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Nobody is trolling you! I am suggesting that rather than post a new thread with the same basic information over and over just create a single thread for your postings or on the flip side post less. In the specific case of this post we had already answered you in the previous post that you made about the almost exact same situation in which we tried to help you but you didn't really seem to want our advice. This isn't based in hate or dislike of you as a person and should not be taken that way.
12-22-15, 12:28 PM
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Nobody is trolling you! I am suggesting that rather than post a new thread with the same basic information over and over just create a single thread for your postings or on the flip side post less. In the specific case of this post we had already answered you in the previous post that you made about the almost exact same situation in which we tried to help you but you didn't really seem to want our advice. This isn't based in hate or dislike of you as a person and should not be taken that way.
Sleeping pad failures and Can Someone recommend a good Sleeping pad 72x20x2 to 4in ???
is not the same!!!
for your info my 1-2010 ThermaRest Trail pro sleeping pad failed on 12-21-2015 I was looking for info on how to repair it and it not holding by 1/2hr and I am just going to buy
a new ThermaRest Trail Pro Sleeping pad on 12-31-2015 from REI and I was trying to save money!!! and I told my mom about the failed sleeping pad and she sending me $250.00 to
buy a new ThermaRest Sleeping pad and on 2-8-2015 I start my Job on Butler Amusements
in California working the Games 7days a week with 12 to 15hrs days from Feb to Nov
12-22-15, 10:04 PM
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I did some clean up. Indyfabz, please leave this thread.
12-22-15, 10:34 PM
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I work at an online retailer from October to December doing the Christmas rush thing. One overtime day is more than a week at the fast food joints around here. Got laid off last week, but am good to go until April or May. But, I have a crappy job starting mid Jan and will have a bonus!!!
It's all just a waiting game until 2/17 (13 months, eight days).....retirement check comes and the western state lines between here and the Four Corners area will be my birthday present to myself.
Already set with great gear.....just holding out for sustainment funds.
12-22-15, 11:08 PM
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Checked out your FB page Tim, looks like you're doing a lot of good stuff! And yes, I remember fried bologna too 
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Hi Tim- I think we would all be interested in hearing the full story of how you became Homeless By Choice Since 3-1998. Of course it would be off topic for the "Touring" subforum, but there is a subforum called "Foo" where it would be appropriate and appreciated. In addition, I think you should consider starting a sort of daily blog in "Foo" that would keep us updated on the trials and triumphs you experience in your unique lifestyle. Merry Christmas and look forward to hearing from you soon in "Foo!"
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Hi Tim- I think we would all be interested in hearing the full story of how you became Homeless By Choice Since 3-1998. Of course it would be off topic for the "Touring" subforum, but there is a subforum called "Foo" where it would be appropriate and appreciated. In addition, I think you should consider starting a sort of daily blog in "Foo" that would keep us updated on the trials and triumphs you experience in your unique lifestyle. Merry Christmas and look forward to hearing from you soon in "Foo!"
and Merry Christmas
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Here you go Foo just have to scroll down the main forum page.
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For your info my Post was the Same!
Sleeping pad failures and Can Someone recommend a good Sleeping pad 72x20x2 to 4in ???
is not the same!!!
for your info my 1-2010 ThermaRest Trail pro sleeping pad failed on 12-21-2015 I was looking for info on how to repair it and it not holding by 1/2hr and I am just going to buy
a new ThermaRest Trail Pro Sleeping pad on 12-31-2015 from REI and I was trying to save money!!! and I told my mom about the failed sleeping pad and she sending me $250.00 to
buy a new ThermaRest Sleeping pad and on 2-8-2015 I start my Job on Butler Amusements
in California working the Games 7days a week with 12 to 15hrs days from Feb to Nov
Sleeping pad failures and Can Someone recommend a good Sleeping pad 72x20x2 to 4in ???
is not the same!!!
for your info my 1-2010 ThermaRest Trail pro sleeping pad failed on 12-21-2015 I was looking for info on how to repair it and it not holding by 1/2hr and I am just going to buy
a new ThermaRest Trail Pro Sleeping pad on 12-31-2015 from REI and I was trying to save money!!! and I told my mom about the failed sleeping pad and she sending me $250.00 to
buy a new ThermaRest Sleeping pad and on 2-8-2015 I start my Job on Butler Amusements
in California working the Games 7days a week with 12 to 15hrs days from Feb to Nov
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12-28-15, 10:32 AM
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I happen to agree.
If you don't like the thread, refrain from posting.
A little empathy goes a long way.
There is no mandate for taking advice.
Advice is merely opinion which is like backsides, in that everyone has one.
We all tend to pick and choose the opinions that suit.
Biketouringhobo, I recently read that with regards searching for leaks in sleeping mats, a bath filled with hot(ish) water was superior to cold.
Not too hot to put your hands in, merely warmer than warm.
If you don't like the thread, refrain from posting.
A little empathy goes a long way.
There is no mandate for taking advice.
Advice is merely opinion which is like backsides, in that everyone has one.
We all tend to pick and choose the opinions that suit.
Biketouringhobo, I recently read that with regards searching for leaks in sleeping mats, a bath filled with hot(ish) water was superior to cold.
Not too hot to put your hands in, merely warmer than warm.
my mom is sending me $250.00 on 2/29/2015 to get New ThermaRest Trail Pro Sleeping pad from REI
12-28-15, 10:48 AM
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I am buying a New ThermaRest Trail Pro Sleeping pad and I will send the 1-2010 ThermaRest Sleeping Pad Cascade designs with a Note for Repair or New Pad
12-28-15, 11:02 AM
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My 1-2010 ThermaRest Trail Pro Sleeping Pad
was OK on 12-19-2015 was holding air... last night it got a hole near valve or the seems...
and I am going to repace it with new ThermaRest Trail Pro Sleeping pad on 1-3-2016 at REI
or Backcountry...
my ??? is should try to find a hole in it and then try to patch it up with gear aid seem grip to use it as a Spare Sleeping pad since I am Sleeping in My Tent by Choice to get my gear to Survive in this World... and I also use the Sleeping pad 7days a week 365days a year??? or Should I buy 2 new ThermaRest Trail Pro Sleeping Pads???
good thing I still have my 7-2008 ThermaRest Trail Pro Sleeping pad that got a pin hole made by a puppy dog on 12-2008 and I had to patch it up with Gorilla Super glue and Gorilla Duct tape near the valve and I used 1,000 mph olive duct tape still holds air for 5days
was OK on 12-19-2015 was holding air... last night it got a hole near valve or the seems...
and I am going to repace it with new ThermaRest Trail Pro Sleeping pad on 1-3-2016 at REI
or Backcountry...
my ??? is should try to find a hole in it and then try to patch it up with gear aid seem grip to use it as a Spare Sleeping pad since I am Sleeping in My Tent by Choice to get my gear to Survive in this World... and I also use the Sleeping pad 7days a week 365days a year??? or Should I buy 2 new ThermaRest Trail Pro Sleeping Pads???
good thing I still have my 7-2008 ThermaRest Trail Pro Sleeping pad that got a pin hole made by a puppy dog on 12-2008 and I had to patch it up with Gorilla Super glue and Gorilla Duct tape near the valve and I used 1,000 mph olive duct tape still holds air for 5days
Cheers
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I Can not use Closed Cell pads with Big Agnes Sleeping Bag have a Sleeping Pad Sleeve for 72X20in up to 4in
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*also biketouringhobo seems to get a lot of flack for his postings of late and I gotta say it's kinda rude. I know there's a search function blah blah blah, but damn. If someone started a conversation with you on the street would you treat them that way? The mans dealing with a lot of issues and doing quite well it seems to me. Someone reaches out for community and you **** on them. The man is just making conversation, nobodies forcing you to respond. And besides, looking back at a lot of his posts end up becoming multiple page threads.
If you do a search and respond for details you get shat on for bringing up a zombie thread.
There is not one thing that you can post or a single way to do anything that someone will not just move on, but see the need to throw their useless thoughts into the thread.
Expected in the 41, not so much here. Nothing to add...move on. All you have to do is nothing.
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That said.
I have a similar Big Agnes bag. I use a Thermarest "light pro something" pad that's got the tapered shape. No problems. I had a roll of Reflectix laying around so I cut a chunk to fit the sleeve in the BA bag. It doesn't weigh enough to care about and adds a bit of about 3.5r insulation to the package. We're just now getting out of our record high temps for December so I can't really swear that it's the icing on the cake...or bag as it may be.
I have a similar Big Agnes bag. I use a Thermarest "light pro something" pad that's got the tapered shape. No problems. I had a roll of Reflectix laying around so I cut a chunk to fit the sleeve in the BA bag. It doesn't weigh enough to care about and adds a bit of about 3.5r insulation to the package. We're just now getting out of our record high temps for December so I can't really swear that it's the icing on the cake...or bag as it may be.