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Old 06-21-16, 08:19 PM   #51
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That's the very thing they will say at the border as I ride my Marrakesh...
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The one of me and my dog? I did that as I've been accused of being someone called squeezebox by like 3 people or so. Just trying to show I'm really a person. Sorry for the trouble 😌
No, no...I was serious. I really liked that picture. I think maybe there should be a "Your bike and your dog" thread. Great looking dog!
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Oh thanks Dougmon!! He's a rescue from an owner surrender ( can't imagine anyone giving him up). He's goofy like scooby doo.

Obviously a cardinal fan although I got him in Indiana.
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Old 06-22-16, 04:10 PM   #56
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Just did a 2 week tour of Maine and a little of New Hampshire. Fully loaded/self-supported with front and rear panniers, tangle bag on the top tube, and rando bag on the handlebars. Bike rode great, and was really stable! Definitely the ride was smoother with panniers on the front.
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[QUOTE=jon_baler;18900352]Just did a 2 week tour of Maine and a little of New Hampshire. Fully loaded/self-supported with front and rear panniers, tangle bag on the top tube, and rando bag on the handlebars. Bike rode great, and was really stable! Definitely the ride was smoother with panniers on the front.[/QUOTE
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Just did a 2 week tour of Maine and a little of New Hampshire. Fully loaded/self-supported with front and rear panniers, tangle bag on the top tube, and rando bag on the handlebars. Bike rode great, and was really stable! Definitely the ride was smoother with panniers on the front.[/QUOTE
What rack do you have on the front?

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What rack do you have on the front?

Thanks,janine
The pannier rack is the original version of the Salsa Down Under Rack, and the bag is supported by a Nitto M18 rack.
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The pannier rack is the original version of the Salsa Down Under Rack, and the bag is supported by a Nitto M18 rack.
Thanks so much Jon! I'm thinking what to put on my front. happy trails on your marrakesh!!

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By the way, the Salsa Alternator Low Deck rack is now in stock for those who bought the frame only. Would also make a good choice for those running road tires on their vaya's or Fargo's with alternator drop-outs.
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It's been awhile since any posts on this thread. I was thinking about LHT, but my LBS pointed out, that with the modifications I was wanting, it would be a better route to go with the Marrakesh.
Any updates from those riding a Marrakesh????
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I have about 1000 miles on my Marrakesh since July of last year. It's always been loaded down since it's my dedicated tourer. This setup is around 75 lbs of gear and I weigh around 280 lbs.

I think the bike is a great setup out of the box except for two things.
1. the flat handlebars are uncomfortable. (switched to a Jones Loop H-bar)
2. Rims are weak. The Shimano loose ball hubs are fine with the 36 spoke wheels but I could not keep the spokes properly tensioned. I finally had the spokes under proper tension and the nipples started pulling out of the rim. This may be because the WTB rim is different than what WTB sells on their website, the one that is available on their site has eyelets on the nipple openings. Either way the rims are way too weak for my needs as a heavy tourer with a fat dude on the saddle.

The way the bike feels is superb when loaded. Rides like a rock when empty but I expected that.

Plenty of tire clearance. Currently I'm running 40h Velocity Cliffhangers and 700 x 50c Travel contacts and I have at least 3/8" on each side of the tire. (pics are somewhat old)

I love the kickstand plate, extra spoke provisions, geometry, gear range and the bottle cage mounting options (bike will hold up to 5)

Overall I couldn't be more happy with this bike as a bomb proof touring bike for a clyde.



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Yes with limited results. Plus I would prefer to hear from those on the forum who own and have been riding the bike. Thus I am trying to create a discussion here.

I plan to ride one when I travel back to Seattle. The problem here in Iowa I have found is limited availability. And it sounds like if I order I may be stuck with the bike. Though driving to a better shop in Iowa city it Madison may be worth the trip.

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Oh hey, i remember reading a post or two of yours in the c&v forum...you were looking you move to the driftless area.
How goes it so far? Not sure if it was mentioned, but there is a yearly ride in SW WI which a good number of the c&v posters participate in. Pain and gain in WI or some title close to that.
Anyone up for a whole lot of pain in SW Wisconsin in August?

Both of you should do it on old bikes . . .

It's a tough ride but a lot of fun.
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Jesus, that's the most loaded up touring bike I've ever seen.
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@biggus duckus It was just for an overnighter....
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@biggus duckus It was just for an overnighter....
Just an overnighter? LOL, you got those F&R panniers loaded up with beers, HD? If so, holler at me next time you are in New England, and I'll come help you drink them. I'll bring pizza.
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Just an overnighter? LOL, you got those F&R panniers loaded up with beers, HD? If so, holler at me next time you are in New England, and I'll come help you drink them. I'll bring pizza.
HAHAHA yea WAAAAY too much gear for an overnight trip but I loaded it up exactly how I want it for a much longer trip I'm taking this year. more or less just a training ride on a nice weekend. There may have been a 5th of jager stashed in the panniers in there somewhere
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The main reason to be considering a Marrakesh is if you desire to build a 700c tourer with an IGH. Running deraillers on the Marrakesh makes the whole rocker dropout an expensive, superfluous, weight-adding complication which reverts to the problem of disc brake/rack mount interference, which were solved by the introduction of the chainstay-mounted rear disc brake years ago. If you are not seriously planning a Rohloff/Shimano IGH for your Marrakesh, then the Surly LHT/DT frameset is a better choice, since it will accommodate all normal racks.
The part about the rack is true, this bike is sort of stuck with the Salsa Rack or you could get a long spacer and bolt similar to what PB supplies with their fenders.

As for the rocker, it has advantages if you want to run a larger wheel and keeping the axle in the same place in relation to the derailleur versus say my Surly Ogre the more I move the wheel back the further it gets from my derailleur and creates poor shifting.
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Although Salsa's website isnt very clear, their hardware kit will allow you to add a different rack to the marrakesh.

Lower Mount Kit for Alternator Rack | Parts & Accessories | Salsa Cycles

On the Marrakesh page:
MARRAKESH FLATBAR DEORE | Bikes | Salsa Cycles

It says on the "Multiple cargo loading options" Tab

"Other racks can be fitted with the use of the Alternator Rack hardware kit or P-clamps."
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Salsa Marakesh

I am jumping into bike touring as a stone cold newbie. I have been riding road bikes for years, and after a suggestion by my wife we decided to get touring bikes. We didn't do much shopping and have absolutely nothing to compare to. But I really like my Salsa Marrakesh. I got my bike in late November, but due to snow, ice, and the fact I would rather ski this time of year I only have a little over a hundred miles on it. I've commuted to work a couple times. I have found the bike comfortable, and even though the tires are pumped up at close to max pressure, it rides very smoothly. I'm thinking the 700 x 38 tires will be great for both pavement and gravel and dirt riding. Currently the longest ride is 30 miles. The Brooks seat was comfortable even though it is nowhere close to broken in. I did switch out the bar end shifters for some STIs. It required a change to the front derailleur, but is shifts smoothly. I have no feedback about the rear rack, how it sits, etc. All I know is that my paniers fit fine and the bike handled great with both of them loaded for my commute.

The only negative comment is minor and may be common to most frames. When I have the front racks on the bike I can't remove the wheel without taking out the quick release skewer. Not really a problem,, but it is a hassle. Oh yes. after taking considerable time installing fenders and a front rack, I quickly realized I will need to remove the rack to put the bike on bicycle mount on the top of my car.

At the end of the month we will be heading to Death Valley for some sun, warmth and riding. It will be a shakedown cruise on fully loaded bikes. Perhaps I can give a more full report at that time. But so far, so good
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I have about 1000 miles on my Marrakesh since July of last year. It's always been loaded down since it's my dedicated tourer. This setup is around 75 lbs of gear and I weigh around 280 lbs.

I think the bike is a great setup out of the box except for two things.
1. the flat handlebars are uncomfortable. (switched to a Jones Loop H-bar)
2. Rims are weak. The Shimano loose ball hubs are fine with the 36 spoke wheels but I could not keep the spokes properly tensioned. I finally had the spokes under proper tension and the nipples started pulling out of the rim. This may be because the WTB rim is different than what WTB sells on their website, the one that is available on their site has eyelets on the nipple openings. Either way the rims are way too weak for my needs as a heavy tourer with a fat dude on the saddle.

The way the bike feels is superb when loaded. Rides like a rock when empty but I expected that.

Plenty of tire clearance. Currently I'm running 40h Velocity Cliffhangers and 700 x 50c Travel contacts and I have at least 3/8" on each side of the tire. (pics are somewhat old)

I love the kickstand plate, extra spoke provisions, geometry, gear range and the bottle cage mounting options (bike will hold up to 5)

Overall I couldn't be more happy with this bike as a bomb proof touring bike for a clyde.
That's a lot of stuff.

That front panniers are scary low. Did you have any problem with them?
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i have a scheme to take a nice, long cycle trek with the missus and have been obsessing over touring bikes lately. i go back and forth between various Surly bikes and the Marrakesh. i currently own a Fargo and a Mariachi, so i'm partial to the Marrakesh. not sure which way i'll go, but i'll enjoy this thread the meantime. there are some nice-looking rigs here. the trekker in my head looks a lot like the @jon_baler bike, but with a surly moloko bar, instead of the crazy. anyway... subscribed.
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The only negative comment is minor and may be common to most frames. When I have the front racks on the bike I can't remove the wheel without taking out the quick release skewer. Not really a problem,, but it is a hassle. Oh yes. after taking considerable time installing fenders and a front rack, I quickly realized I will need to remove the rack to put the bike on bicycle mount on the top of my car.
I have an older Salsa front rack, and I don't have this problem with the Marakesh fork. I did this issue with the same rack, and a V2 Fargo fork.

You can get a different rack for you car that grabs the downtube and straps on the tires. We have two different ones from Thule, so we can haul our touring bikes (and fat bikes with non-standard fork hub spacing).
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