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Old 05-29-16, 08:10 AM
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Picking the Right 26in Tire for Expedition Bike Touring on Bike Route 66

I am planning a Bike Touring Trip on the Bike Route 66 in the Summer of 2017

I am taken the Amtrak Train from LA, California to Flagstaff, Arizona and i will use the Metrolink Train from Oceanside, CA to LA, CA and i was planning to ride from
Flagstaff, AZ to Winslow, AZ then to Kingman, AZ then back to Winslow, AZ then to
Flagstaff, AZ then to San Diego, CA

Bike Route 66 is on US.66 and I-40=Interstate 40


I am using the Continental Touring Plus 26X1.75 44-559 and I was looking at the
Schwalbe marathon Duluxe HS420
26x2.0 50-559 folding bead
load 121kg 267lbs
double defense
evolution line
$60.22 USD
35-70psi
720gm


or
Schwalbe marathon plus tour HS404
26x2.0 50-559 wire bead
load 130kg 287lbs
smartguard
endurance
30-70psi
$63.86 USD
1100gm

also in 26x1.75
47-559
980gm
$58.21


I am having a hard time picking tires
and both to tires are very good for a
Heavy load and Rough Roads, Dirt Roads

$63.86-$60.22=$3.64 for 2 tires at $60.22+$60.22=$120.44 and I save $7.28

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They're all fine tires. Why are you switching from the continental touring plus. Curious as I like them a lot.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
They're all fine tires. Why are you switching from the continental touring plus. Curious as I like them a lot.
I am looking for 26X2.0 tires and Riding the Bike Route 66 and I-40 I may need the 26X2.0 Tires
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JHFC, you got one stop posting and just go somewhere .
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FWIW, I use Schwalbe Marathons. Got the first ones 10 years ago. As long as I keep them pumped up to 65 psi, they are great. If I under-inflate them (because of a junky plastic car-tire pressure gauge) the sidewalls "go" - usually downhill.

Like I said, I have been using them for 10 years. I tour in outback Australia... No need for me to change.
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Both good tires, can't go wrong with either. Likely little change in bike behavior/handling. Get whichever one you can get cheaper
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Originally Posted by tmac100
FWIW, I use Schwalbe Marathons.
Which ones? the Schwalbe Marathon name covers a wide number of tires, some are heavy, slow & cheap, some fast rolling, light & expensive, just saying Marathon is very vague.

For the OP, you haven't given any idea of what you + the bike weigh, and if you can use the lighter weight tire, that 760g / 1.67lbs difference could make your ride a lot nicer
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Pick something up along the way once you have actually put the miles in enough to wear out whats on there .

OEM on My Koga was Conti Travel contact, been on there for 4 years still negligible wear.
People kept volunteering their genius that I had worn the center of my tire bald, in spite of the tread being designed that way ,

so I Put Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires on.
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Originally Posted by jimc101
Which ones? the Schwalbe Marathon name covers a wide number of tires, some are heavy, slow & cheap, some fast rolling, light & expensive, just saying Marathon is very vague.

For the OP, you haven't given any idea of what you + the bike weigh, and if you can use the lighter weight tire, that 760g / 1.67lbs difference could make your ride a lot nicer
I weigh 225lbs and my Panniers and Rack Top Bag is 100lbs
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Originally Posted by Biketouringhobo
I weigh 225lbs and my Panniers and Rack Top Bag is 100lbs
Both should be ok (adding the capacity of both tires together)
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Originally Posted by Biketouringhobo
I am planning a Bike Touring Trip on the Bike Route 66 in the Summer of 2017
I am using the Continental Touring Plus 26X1.75 44-559

Is there anything wrong with the tires you have now? They should be fine if they aren't super worn. I get that everyone wants to have the most bulletproof setup, but honestly a lot of people could probably slap a rack and a couple panniers on whatever bike they have right now and do just fine as long as they make sure everything is in good working order before heading out.

That said, both the tires you listed are great, and I've had both of them in the past. My touring bike is also my do-everything bike so it's got a lot of mileage after 5-6 years, and I can't recall having any problems with those outside of one of them being obliterated by a razor blade that I ran over once.
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Originally Posted by jimc101
Both should be ok (adding the capacity of both tires together)
I am more on getting Marathon deluxe hs420 do to the EVO line and $60.22 USD
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bombproof .... Schwalbe Marathon Plus

fast and comfortable ride .... Compass rat trap pass ....
https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/co...rat-trap-pass/

if they are too wide, look at the thinner compass tyres for 26":

https://www.compasscycle.com/product...tires/26-inch/
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Originally Posted by manapua_man
Is there anything wrong with the tires you have now? They should be fine if they aren't super worn. I get that everyone wants to have the most bulletproof setup, but honestly a lot of people could probably slap a rack and a couple panniers on whatever bike they have right now and do just fine as long as they make sure everything is in good working order before heading out.

That said, both the tires you listed are great, and I've had both of them in the past. My touring bike is also my do-everything bike so it's got a lot of mileage after 5-6 years, and I can't recall having any problems with those outside of one of them being obliterated by a razor blade that I ran over once.
the Continental Touring Plus are 26X1.75 58psi
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Originally Posted by Biketouringhobo
the Continental Touring Plus are 26X1.75 58psi
The difference in width is pretty negligible, and the psi can actually be higher or lower than that as needed. I doubt you would really have any problems with them vs the others, even off road unless the tread is dramatically different.
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Originally Posted by dim
bombproof .... Schwalbe Marathon Plus

fast and comfortable ride .... Compass rat trap pass ....
https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/co...rat-trap-pass/

if they are too wide, look at the thinner compass tyres for 26":

https://www.compasscycle.com/product...tires/26-inch/
Or you could save $40 a tire and get Panaracer Paselas. After all, Compass are just rebranded Panaracers.
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Originally Posted by Timequake
Or you could save $40 a tire and get Panaracer Paselas. After all, Compass are just rebranded Panaracers.
not fully correct:

https://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/...-in-26-x-1-75/

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Panaracer makes the Compass tires for us. (They also make Grand Bois tires.) Panaracer’s Pasela uses the same mold as the Compass 26″ tires, but the Compass tire uses a different casing construction. The result is lower rolling resistance and a more comfortable ride. The tread rubber is different, too, offering better grip. Finally, the tread may be a little thinner, while still offering long life. The Compass tires use a folding Kevlar bead.

While the Pasela is a budget tire that offers very good performance for the money, the Compass is a high-end tire optimized for performance and comfort.
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Originally Posted by dim
not fully correct:

https://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/...-in-26-x-1-75/

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Panaracer makes the Compass tires for us. (They also make Grand Bois tires.) Panaracer’s Pasela uses the same mold as the Compass 26″ tires, but the Compass tire uses a different casing construction. The result is lower rolling resistance and a more comfortable ride. The tread rubber is different, too, offering better grip. Finally, the tread may be a little thinner, while still offering long life. The Compass tires use a folding Kevlar bead.

While the Pasela is a budget tire that offers very good performance for the money, the Compass is a high-end tire optimized for performance and comfort.
Meh, it's all hype. I've tried them both and can't tell the difference. And I'm willing to bet that if you didn't know which was which, you wouldn't notice a difference either.
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Originally Posted by manapua_man
The difference in width is pretty negligible, and the psi can actually be higher or lower than that as needed. I doubt you would really have any problems with them vs the others, even off road unless the tread is dramatically different.
Bike Route 66 is on US.66 and I-40=Interstate 40 and that is why I am looking at 26x2.0
the Schwalbe matathon deluxe hs420 26x2.0
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Meh, it's all hype. I've tried them both and can't tell the difference. And I'm willing to bet that if you didn't know which was which, you wouldn't notice a difference either.
did you use strava for the same route and the same wind conditions? .... 2-3 miles per hour faster makes a huge difference on long rides
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I don't think 2" tires are necessary for Rt. 66.
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Originally Posted by Biketouringhobo
Bike Route 66 is on US.66 and I-40=Interstate 40 and that is why I am looking at 26x2.0
the Schwalbe matathon deluxe hs420 26x2.0
2in tires are not at all necessary for that route. You'd probably be appalled at the tracks I (and thousands of other people) take my bike on with skinnier tires.
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Originally Posted by manapua_man
You'd probably be appalled at the tracks
What do you mean???
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Route 66 outta Flag was pretty smooth road, same with I-40. Might be some cinders left over from snow season, still no problemo on 1.75" tires.
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Originally Posted by Biketouringhobo
What do you mean???
I take narrower tires than yours on mountain bike tracks on a folding bike with loaded panniers. You're probably worrying way too much about nothing and would probably be better off investing in something else.
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