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Old 06-14-16, 05:52 AM
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Hi,

I'm hankering after a surly ogre as my one bike fits all tank, but having serious problems getting hold of a large frame in any colour in the UK- I've been waiting 5 months and have just been told it will be at least another month or so.

So, I'm looking around the market for anything else that might suit my needs. I love the versatility for the ogre with all its braze ons and mounts, I was thinking salsa fargo but am too attached to my Jones bars so wasn't sure that would be the right fit of frame and bar.

I'm also thinking of the specialised AWOL but it's far less flexible than the ogre and fargo.

Help! Any thoughts on what I could consider?

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Have you looked at the bikes from Thorn? They are in the UK. They have several models that use 26 inch wheels.
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Originally Posted by DropkickMarshy
Hi,

I'm hankering after a surly ogre as my one bike fits all tank, but having serious problems getting hold of a large frame in any colour in the UK- I've been waiting 5 months and have just been told it will be at least another month or so.

So, I'm looking around the market for anything else that might suit my needs. I love the versatility for the ogre with all its braze ons and mounts, I was thinking salsa fargo but am too attached to my Jones bars so wasn't sure that would be the right fit of frame and bar.

I'm also thinking of the specialised AWOL but it's far less flexible than the ogre and fargo.

Help! Any thoughts on what I could consider?

Cheers

DropkickMarshy
I have a used Surly Troll Black Frameset in Large. I swapped my frame out about a month ago and it's just sitting in the basement. It is basically the Ogre in 26" Feel free to make me an offer if you like per PM. I'm in Germany so shipping won't be the world.

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OP, what about bike24 or hibike.com?
I was going to ask about Charlie the bike monger but see he's out of L frames.

PS. I've read of people rockin J Jones bars on their Fargo's.

With your proximity to Europe on your doorstep, I'm wondering if the World Troller (for easy air freight) might make more sense.
Had it been available when I made my Ogre frame purchase, I might be now rocking 26 instead of 29.

What did you think about the ECR?
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Originally Posted by DropkickMarshy
So, I'm looking around the market for anything else that might suit my needs. I love the versatility for the ogre with all its braze ons and mounts, I was thinking salsa fargo but am too attached to my Jones bars so wasn't sure that would be the right fit of frame and bar.
My thinking was the same as Rifraf ... I would give the Fargo serious thought. There is a bikepacking build discussion of same at the Australian Cycling Forums. I have built up a Salsa Mukluk so a different beast but I also went with a Jones H-Bar. So far so good.
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Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
Have you looked at the bikes from Thorn? They are in the UK. They have several models that use 26 inch wheels.

Yeah I've looked at Thorn a fair bit, love their bikes but a little out of my price range at the moment. Thanks for the suggestion!




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I have a used Surly Troll Black Frameset in Large. I swapped my frame out about a month ago and it's just sitting in the basement. It is basically the Ogre in 26" Feel free to make me an offer if you like per PM. I'm in Germany so shipping won't be the world.


Shawn

Thanks for the offer but I really wanted to go with a 29er rather than 26, any reason why you aren't using it?




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OP, what about bike24 or hibike.com?
I was going to ask about Charlie the bike monger but see he's out of L frames.


PS. I've read of people rockin J Jones bars on their Fargo's.


With your proximity to Europe on your doorstep, I'm wondering if the World Troller (for easy air freight) might make more sense.
Had it been available when I made my Ogre frame purchase, I might be now rocking 26 instead of 29.


What did you think about the ECR?

The World Troller looks an absolute machine, but frame costs are up near the £1000 mark I think so its a little out of my price range.


The ECR looks good too, and frame prices are roughly comparable to the Ogre, but its the same problem with the ECR's - stock just seems to be really low for some reason.




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My thinking was the same as Rifraf ... I would give the Fargo serious thought. There is a bikepacking build discussion of same at the Australian Cycling Forums. I have built up a Salsa Mukluk so a different beast but I also went with a Jones H-Bar. So far so good.

Awesome - thanks for the tip, I'll have a look. Like the look of the Fargo, hopefully somebody has positive reviews of using it with the Jones bars!
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Originally Posted by rifraf
OP, what about bike24 or hibike.com?
This bike from Germany (or the Czech Republic?) is awesome and seems to be the equivalent of the Ogre.

https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content...u=1000,173,158

They also have an XT and a Deore version (Trekking groupsets, rather than straight MTB groupsets).

That Rohloff-equipped model is a cracking deal though, considering the hub alone is worth almost half the asking price.
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Originally Posted by DropkickMarshy
Thanks for the offer but I really wanted to go with a 29er rather than 26, any reason why you aren't using it?

This Spring I decided I wanted to go with Gates Carbon Drive as well as a kickstand. Neither of which the Surly frame allowed. Probably not the cheapest way to do it.....

The Surly:


The new frame:


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Top dollar/Euro... Tout Terrain Pan America , a dual suspension touring bike made in Germany..

Panamericana models

Their Silk Road is like the above poster got.. Silkroad models But rack not an add-on..

Topic Poster and Thorn/SJS Cycles both being in England , you can travel to their shop and get a perfect fit and just the components you like.

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