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Old 05-21-05, 09:07 PM   #1
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have bike, want to travel, BUT

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I want to know a few things as I'm SOOOO new to touring. . . I've actually never done it before, so here goes. . . My fiance and I, in our desire to never own a car, have decided that our trip to Berkeley will be done on bike. She on her 80s trek 12 speed and me on a track bike (I will have fixed/free with a front brake. . . either canti or disk, we'll see). My question is, can I get a rear rack set-up without the use of rack eyelets on my dropouts or chainstays? I've only ever seen "touring" bikes with these set ups, but is there anything I can buy that will screw onto the top and bottom of my seatstays so that I can use a rack? Am I making any sense? I just don't want to buy another bike (crazy, I know. . . I have a perfectly good reason to buy one AND the support of the future wife and I want to refuse) or get mods done to my track bike. I was thinking either the scew on rear rack eyelets OR just buying a fork and using panniers up there. But would that affect the bike too much? Thanks in advance, guys.
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Old 05-21-05, 09:50 PM   #2
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I can't see a rack being stable enough for loaded touring without having the eyelets available. I also can't see why someone would tour with a singlespeed.
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You crazy,man!

But sure, they make racks that don't need eyelets in the frame, they have rubberized clips that go around the bottom of the seat stays, maybe the top too, that the rack then attaches to, just don't know how much weight they're good for.

As for being crazy, there's a recent picture "picture's of your loaded rigs" above of someone with his fixed gear who toured across the country fixed.

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You will be so sorry touring on a fixed/free. The west is brutally hilly. You really need
some high and low gears.
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To answer your question without doubting your sanity... yes there are clips that go on the seat stays so the rack can be attached. You should talk to your local bike shop. If you don't have success, come back here.

Now as to your sanity. I doubt the appropriateness of using a track bike for touring. The frame may be too light to take the added weight of equipment on a rear rack. You may suffer from bottom bracket flex at least, and severe handling problems on downhills -- including shimmy -- at worst. I also presume you are young and invincible, and the thought of blowing up your knees on a fixed gear climbing hills hasn't occurred to you. I can refer you to travelogue after travelogue of people who have attempted hilly country in bikes without sufficient low gearing and have complained endlessly of sore knees. Some have even given up.

Of course you could go ask the SS/FG heroes in their own forum, and you will get all sorts of "bravo" comments.
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Cant you change the gears on a SS at the beginning of the day to suit the hills you will be facing? Have you considered a trailer for carrying your stuff?
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Cant you change the gears on a SS at the beginning of the day to suit the hills you will be facing?...
Exactly (or throughout the day). Also check out how Rivendell's Quickbeam bike is geared. 2 rings in front, flip/flop hub in back. Can be set up niceley for climbing (or riding into headwinds) while "fixed".

[Edit] For "clamp on" eyelets, see Tubus' quick-release set. As to there reliabilty, as well as your frames structural integrity(and safety) with added weight-you will have to use good judgement.

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