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Have been using WS for 8 years or so.
As a guest: Be courteous and polite. After all, you're in someone's home. Read their profile before contacting them, particularly about needing notice before hosting (some of us do) and what they can provide and what they can't. (Camping space? A bed? Laundry? Mechanical help?)
As a host: Be sensitive to the needs of your guest. Understand that they may be chatty but they may want space, or feel awkward in your home. Clean your shower, please, and be clear about what you can offer.
Everybody: Leave feedback. (It's kind of a dick move not to.) Above all, be nice.
As a guest: Be courteous and polite. After all, you're in someone's home. Read their profile before contacting them, particularly about needing notice before hosting (some of us do) and what they can provide and what they can't. (Camping space? A bed? Laundry? Mechanical help?)
As a host: Be sensitive to the needs of your guest. Understand that they may be chatty but they may want space, or feel awkward in your home. Clean your shower, please, and be clear about what you can offer.
Everybody: Leave feedback. (It's kind of a dick move not to.) Above all, be nice.
also, we do keep a "guest register". awesome idea !!! ! we've had so many guests that i wouldn't remember half of them without it !
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haha No, not you. They were up in the Oakland neighborhood. Wasn't an old t-shirt. I wish though! Sunglasses and a few other random things! A gift card. Can't remember what else.
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I've never heard of anyone tipping a WS host. I don't even tip in restaurants so wouldn't ever leave money for a WS host. If we go out to eat I offer to buy them a drink though. Or if they're making dinner I offer to pitch in and bring something. Usually I get the "you're my guest so thanks but no thanks" when offering.
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I've never heard of anyone tipping a WS host. I don't even tip in restaurants so wouldn't ever leave money for a WS host. If we go out to eat I offer to buy them a drink though. Or if they're making dinner I offer to pitch in and bring something. Usually I get the "you're my guest so thanks but no thanks" when offering.
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As for tipping; Let's not get too far off topic but I don't believe in it. It's optional and a lot of places have began raising prices and removing the tip option from receipts. Seattle & Portland are two of the cities who've started to move away from tipping. Slowly at least.
A side note: If you get their address sending a thank you card/note when you return home is always appreciative I think. Was one of the first things I did after my tour this summer.
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I've been a host for a few years, but never a guest. I've hosted from one up to 22 cyclists at one time....yeah 22 but I live on ten acres so most camped outside. On only one occasion did I feel a little leery about a guest. He was American and I got the strong impression he was running from the law. This cyclist did not have any feedback on warmshowers either so that made me a bit concerned. I just told him he could only stay the night and needed to leave early.
Otherwise all the other guests have been great. The stays have been from one night up to over a week. Many have offered to help around the house, etc and some have even cooked meals for me...we went grocery shopping.
Most of the cyclists I have hosted were from Canada, Europe and Asia but also from other parts of the world. Oh yeah, a couple dogs also....were along for the ride.
The stories we share and friends I have made have been great. I keep track of many of them as they continue to tour.
So for me it's been great, although I don't get a significant amount of guests because I'm not on a major route. I live right on the TX-Mexico border so the cyclists I host are mainly going into Mexico but a few have come the other way.
Don't be afraid to restrict what a guest can do (no drugs and alcohol at my place for example) and where they stay. If you need them out of the house at a certain time or want them only to camp outside just be up-front.
My guest have always been very courteous and can typically speak English well enough.
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I like having a level surface , that way things don't slide onto the deck.
Managed to Tour in/around other countries Before Cell phones and all that ..
Managed to Tour in/around other countries Before Cell phones and all that ..
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What I do is ask if I can take them to dinner.
I also bring along refrigerator magnets and post cards of my home city. I might write a short thank you on the post card.
The magnets seemed to be popular in Italy, where they don't seem to be real common except to tourists .. I also give them out to people that go out of their way to help. I gave one to motorcycle cop that gave us a motorcycle escort through town. He loved it. Tried to stick it on his gas tank.
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I've hosted several times and been hosted several times. My experience has always been positive. For me the issue is that scheduling can be difficult.
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They have some good basics on their forum @TDJ1776
Here's a link to one of them called "How To Be A Good Guest"
https://www.warmshowers.org/good_guest
Here's a link to one of them called "How To Be A Good Guest"
https://www.warmshowers.org/good_guest
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I have had people bring something to contribute to dinner (rolls or something of the like).
But for the most part, I think it's understood I'm doing this because I want to help and don't expect anything in return. Good conversation is a bonus, but not expected.
I do enjoy if they send a postcard or card at the end of their journey. I have 2 or 3 cards on my fridge from people. A couple had pre-made magnets with their blog or other information (one person was raising money for juvenile arthritis).
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Although I'll repeat the sentiment. Communication is key. If you aren't sure of something ask. If you have expectations as a host, communicate them up front.
We always tell people before they go to sleep that they can just come on in if they see lights in the morning. They're welcome to anything in the house for breakfast and to refill water bottles, etc.
And if we do talk, I'll give them route advise. The west to east route in my city has multiple options... and depending on preference some are better than others.
We always tell people before they go to sleep that they can just come on in if they see lights in the morning. They're welcome to anything in the house for breakfast and to refill water bottles, etc.
And if we do talk, I'll give them route advise. The west to east route in my city has multiple options... and depending on preference some are better than others.
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Although I'll repeat the sentiment. Communication is key. If you aren't sure of something ask. If you have expectations as a host, communicate them up front.
We always tell people before they go to sleep that they can just come on in if they see lights in the morning. They're welcome to anything in the house for breakfast and to refill water bottles, etc.
And if we do talk, I'll give them route advise. The west to east route in my city has multiple options... and depending on preference some are better than others.
We always tell people before they go to sleep that they can just come on in if they see lights in the morning. They're welcome to anything in the house for breakfast and to refill water bottles, etc.
And if we do talk, I'll give them route advise. The west to east route in my city has multiple options... and depending on preference some are better than others.
Just some advice for you to pass alone to anyone passing through your area.
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Why don't you join now so you can host before you "use it" on tour? There are a lot of folks who join just before they begin a tour in order to take advantage of the free hospitality which warmshowers offers, but who never reciprocate.
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Agree with Axoloti. Give before you receive and get off to the right start I'm a big fan, have stayed as a guest in about a dozen homes and have hosted several myself. Don't overthink it too much, each host is as different as each guest. Be appreciative and communicate well and everything else usually falls into place.
It's a unique arrangement for the world we live in today-one I find quite refreshing.
It's a unique arrangement for the world we live in today-one I find quite refreshing.
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Totally agree. We have stopped hosting most of the requests from people who have no feedback and have joined just before the trip began. I have got the impression that they are simply using WS as a means of cheap accommodation and have no intention of hosting once they finish their tour. Maybe wrong with some but...
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Totally agree. We have stopped hosting most of the requests from people who have no feedback and have joined just before the trip began. I have got the impression that they are simply using WS as a means of cheap accommodation and have no intention of hosting once they finish their tour. Maybe wrong with some but...
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Totally agree. We have stopped hosting most of the requests from people who have no feedback and have joined just before the trip began. I have got the impression that they are simply using WS as a means of cheap accommodation and have no intention of hosting once they finish their tour. Maybe wrong with some but...
I planned a ride this summer (that I didn't end up taking) with start / stop points entirely based on WS hosts. It's why I signed up to begin with. Yea, I wanted to save money... but I also didn't want to deal with campgrounds. I was planning to use a tent if necessary, anyway. But in the meantime, I've managed to meet 50+ interesting people.
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If you read my post again, the problem I have is that they would appear to have no intention of hosting once their tour is over. WS is a reciprocal interaction. It is not about just being a guest as you tour. If they don't want to host once they stop touring, then they are simply being bludgers.
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I think a lot of it depends on where the person lives in relation to a major bike route. I live in Beaverton, Oregon so I get an occasional request from people coming into Portland to head out to Astoria to start the TransAm. In 3 years of living here I've only had one cyclist who had started the route. He was going from Astoria to Portland before dropping south to join the route. Didn't want to ride on the coast. Otherwise they've all been people who are headed to the start.
Point being if they live on a major bike route and haven't hosted that a cause of concern. If they live in Middle of Nowhere, Nebraska; not so much.
Point being if they live on a major bike route and haven't hosted that a cause of concern. If they live in Middle of Nowhere, Nebraska; not so much.
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If you read my post again, the problem I have is that they would appear to have no intention of hosting once their tour is over. WS is a reciprocal interaction. It is not about just being a guest as you tour. If they don't want to host once they stop touring, then they are simply being bludgers.
If you go to the https://www.warmshowers.org website today, it says that there are 100,931 "active members", but only 47,513 "active hosts". I doubt that ~50% of WS members are presently on tour on November 30. What these numbers tell me is that a lot of folks have simply marked themselves as unavailable for hosting.
In the last couple of years, I've had 3 hosting requests from folks who were not touring by bike. I refused each of those requests.
BTW, I found the following page of statistics to be interesting. It gives the number of members by country.
https://www.warmshowers.org/country_count
For some reason, the total number of members and the number available for hosting is somewhat different on this page than on the WS homepage.
I was surprised to see that the country with the 2nd highest number of members (after the USA which has 26,837 members) is France with 12,854. #3 is the UK at 7,191.