Adding Bottle Cage Mount to Fork Leg
12-12-16, 01:42 PM
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Adding Bottle Cage Mount to Fork Leg
I have a 2016 Novara - Safari. It only has 1 braze-on on each fork-leg. I want to attach a Bottle Mount to them, but of course I will only have one braze-on to screw it into.
What are some good, durable solutions for attaching one in this situation?
What are some good, durable solutions for attaching one in this situation?
12-12-16, 01:47 PM
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A little pricey but may be worth it, Cleaveland Mountaineering: Everything Bags - Fork Mounted Oversized Water Bottle Holders
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A few ideas-
https://www.modernbike.com/product-2...c7AaAmVl8P8HAQ
this is the same as above, but a different pic/view. https://www.amazon.com/SKS-Germany-1...BAG5SJ5AN5Y8EQ
or this - https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Univers.../dp/B001EIEHEC
Then there is this way for cheap. A couple of hose clamps tightened down on the top and lower tabs of a traditional bottle holder. You would put handlebar tape or rubber from an old tube underneath the clamp to prevent scraping, keep the mounts in place, and tighten down more easily.
Of course you could use the mid-point braze on as 1 of the mounting points for any of these options.
Whatever route you go, if you use bottle cages, keep in mind that bottle cages easily bend/expand if they arent positioned in the traditional manner which is at an angle with the water weight resting against the frame. Its why a water bottle on the underside of a downtube should be strapped in too- to prevent the cage from bending and stressing too much.
Personally, I like bikemig's link. Thats a really versatile route as you can use it to secure water or gear. Water in a pannier will typically stay cooler and cleaner(the bottle).
https://www.modernbike.com/product-2...c7AaAmVl8P8HAQ
this is the same as above, but a different pic/view. https://www.amazon.com/SKS-Germany-1...BAG5SJ5AN5Y8EQ
or this - https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Univers.../dp/B001EIEHEC
Then there is this way for cheap. A couple of hose clamps tightened down on the top and lower tabs of a traditional bottle holder. You would put handlebar tape or rubber from an old tube underneath the clamp to prevent scraping, keep the mounts in place, and tighten down more easily.
Of course you could use the mid-point braze on as 1 of the mounting points for any of these options.
Whatever route you go, if you use bottle cages, keep in mind that bottle cages easily bend/expand if they arent positioned in the traditional manner which is at an angle with the water weight resting against the frame. Its why a water bottle on the underside of a downtube should be strapped in too- to prevent the cage from bending and stressing too much.
Personally, I like bikemig's link. Thats a really versatile route as you can use it to secure water or gear. Water in a pannier will typically stay cooler and cleaner(the bottle).
12-12-16, 02:11 PM
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A little pricey but may be worth it, Cleaveland Mountaineering: Everything Bags - Fork Mounted Oversized Water Bottle Holders
12-12-16, 02:15 PM
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A few ideas-
https://www.modernbike.com/product-2...c7AaAmVl8P8HAQ
this is the same as above, but a different pic/view. https://www.amazon.com/SKS-Germany-1...BAG5SJ5AN5Y8EQ
or this - https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Univers.../dp/B001EIEHEC
Then there is this way for cheap. A couple of hose clamps tightened down on the top and lower tabs of a traditional bottle holder. You would put handlebar tape or rubber from an old tube underneath the clamp to prevent scraping, keep the mounts in place, and tighten down more easily.
Of course you could use the mid-point braze on as 1 of the mounting points for any of these options.
Whatever route you go, if you use bottle cages, keep in mind that bottle cages easily bend/expand if they arent positioned in the traditional manner which is at an angle with the water weight resting against the frame. Its why a water bottle on the underside of a downtube should be strapped in too- to prevent the cage from bending and stressing too much.
Personally, I like bikemig's link. Thats a really versatile route as you can use it to secure water or gear. Water in a pannier will typically stay cooler and cleaner(the bottle).
https://www.modernbike.com/product-2...c7AaAmVl8P8HAQ
this is the same as above, but a different pic/view. https://www.amazon.com/SKS-Germany-1...BAG5SJ5AN5Y8EQ
or this - https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Univers.../dp/B001EIEHEC
Then there is this way for cheap. A couple of hose clamps tightened down on the top and lower tabs of a traditional bottle holder. You would put handlebar tape or rubber from an old tube underneath the clamp to prevent scraping, keep the mounts in place, and tighten down more easily.
Of course you could use the mid-point braze on as 1 of the mounting points for any of these options.
Whatever route you go, if you use bottle cages, keep in mind that bottle cages easily bend/expand if they arent positioned in the traditional manner which is at an angle with the water weight resting against the frame. Its why a water bottle on the underside of a downtube should be strapped in too- to prevent the cage from bending and stressing too much.
Personally, I like bikemig's link. Thats a really versatile route as you can use it to secure water or gear. Water in a pannier will typically stay cooler and cleaner(the bottle).
12-12-16, 02:17 PM
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What's wrong with the 4 bottom braze-ons on the frame? Why do you need more water bottle cages on the fork legs?
By the way, the braze-on on the Safari is for a lowrider mount.
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Look for the Universal Support Bolts on the page below (left hand side):
King Cage - Bicycle waterbottle cages handmade in Durango, CO
King Cage - Bicycle waterbottle cages handmade in Durango, CO
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Not sure if this store is in the US, but decathlon have a mount for bottle cages
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/300-univ...d_8339445.html
Cheap as chips, £3.... I have not used one personally, but seems like it would be ok for a std sized bottle
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/300-univ...d_8339445.html
Cheap as chips, £3.... I have not used one personally, but seems like it would be ok for a std sized bottle
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+1 - Thanks for the information. I never realized this. Recently moved my 3rd water bottle cage from the underside of the downtube to the top tube just below the seat. The only cage I've ever broken is the one I had on the underside of the downtube.
12-12-16, 08:38 PM
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My advice is to work up a system that really holds the bottles tight to the forks. My bike has carbon forks and I thought it best to use a nylon strap cage mount around the fork. I used a M5 SS screw into the fender mount with an aluminum standoff to clear the skewer. It was less than ideal. With both bottles full I had to ride out on the hoods to stop front end shimmy. Oddly, as soon as I partially emptied one bottle the shimmy went away. It seems having the equal volumes in each bottle must have set up a sort of harmonic, which caused the shimmy.
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twofish.biz.. rubber and velcro secured bottle cages. its even more secure if you apply contact cement to both surfaces
then the rubber will really stick
planning a desert crossing ? bladder bag for water in both low rider panniers , on a front rack that will use that mid fork-boss
and those on the fork tips
the rack mount is why they're there.
...
then the rubber will really stick
planning a desert crossing ? bladder bag for water in both low rider panniers , on a front rack that will use that mid fork-boss
and those on the fork tips
the rack mount is why they're there.
...
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The top of that aluminum bar stock uses the eyelet in the middle of the fork blade.
The bottom of it shares the eyelet with the fender stay.
The bolt in the middle of the bar has it's head facing the fork, and a nyloc nut facing the bottle.
All bolts are socket button head.
The bottom of it shares the eyelet with the fender stay.
The bolt in the middle of the bar has it's head facing the fork, and a nyloc nut facing the bottle.
All bolts are socket button head.
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My advice is to work up a system that really holds the bottles tight to the forks. My bike has carbon forks and I thought it best to use a nylon strap cage mount around the fork. I used a M5 SS screw into the fender mount with an aluminum standoff to clear the skewer. It was less than ideal. With both bottles full I had to ride out on the hoods to stop front end shimmy. Oddly, as soon as I partially emptied one bottle the shimmy went away. It seems having the equal volumes in each bottle must have set up a sort of harmonic, which caused the shimmy.
The top of that aluminum bar stock uses the eyelet in the middle of the fork blade.
The bottom of it shares the eyelet with the fender stay.
The bolt in the middle of the bar has it's head facing the fork, and a nyloc nut facing the bottle.
All bolts are socket button head.
The bottom of it shares the eyelet with the fender stay.
The bolt in the middle of the bar has it's head facing the fork, and a nyloc nut facing the bottle.
All bolts are socket button head.
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What are you, crossing the Mojave?
It's not like you need to be drinking from all 5 bottles at once. I'd use either bladders or larger jugs in front panniers. Less likely to get bounced out (Let's face it, bottles on the forks better be extra secure or they WILL get dislodged), and you can refill the frame bottles from them as needed.
It's not like you need to be drinking from all 5 bottles at once. I'd use either bladders or larger jugs in front panniers. Less likely to get bounced out (Let's face it, bottles on the forks better be extra secure or they WILL get dislodged), and you can refill the frame bottles from them as needed.
12-13-16, 11:06 PM
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hmmm......rocks, potholes, more rocks.
land of cactus and goatheads and mesquite.
desert, no water, no people, no cars.
pump mounted on fork leg?......what could possibly go wrong?
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land of cactus and goatheads and mesquite.
desert, no water, no people, no cars.
pump mounted on fork leg?......what could possibly go wrong?
the darwin is strong in this one, obi-wan!
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I know this might not be terribly helpful because I'm not addressing your question directly, but I will say that with a traditional four-pannier setup, I was able to easily carry 9 liters of water. That includes three-standard sized bottles stored on three bottle cages (top of downtube, underside of downtube, and seattube). It might be a more practical solution to simply use that braze-on to mount a front rack and get yourself some front panniers, in which you could store water (probably in bladders, as someone else mentioned), or whatever else you might need.
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I know this might not be terribly helpful because I'm not addressing your question directly, but I will say that with a traditional four-pannier setup, I was able to easily carry 9 liters of water. That includes three-standard sized bottles stored on three bottle cages (top of downtube, underside of downtube, and seattube). It might be a more practical solution to simply use that braze-on to mount a front rack and get yourself some front panniers, in which you could store water (probably in bladders, as someone else mentioned), or whatever else you might need.
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What are you, crossing the Mojave?
It's not like you need to be drinking from all 5 bottles at once. I'd use either bladders or larger jugs in front panniers. Less likely to get bounced out (Let's face it, bottles on the forks better be extra secure or they WILL get dislodged), and you can refill the frame bottles from them as needed.
It's not like you need to be drinking from all 5 bottles at once. I'd use either bladders or larger jugs in front panniers. Less likely to get bounced out (Let's face it, bottles on the forks better be extra secure or they WILL get dislodged), and you can refill the frame bottles from them as needed.
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Simple stuff. I too have one braze on on my fork (early Surly Troll). I bought a Topeak Modula Cage, one with a good heavy nylon frame. I drilled a small hole on both sides of the cage corresponding with the height of the bottom hole, then passed a zip tie through it. Before mounting the cage through the top hole to the fork I measured the distance from that top hole to the zip tie hole I had just made. Used a once around the fork wrap of bar tape and wrapped that with electrical tape. Then I mounted the top hole to the fork and tightened the zip tie below it.
Simple stuff. I too have one braze on on my fork (early Surly Troll). I bought a Topeak Modula Cage, one with a good heavy nylon frame. I drilled a small hole on both sides of the cage corresponding with the height of the bottom hole, then passed a zip tie through it. Before mounting the cage through the top hole to the fork I measured the distance from that top hole to the zip tie hole I had just made. Used a once around the fork wrap of bar tape and wrapped that with electrical tape. Then I mounted the top hole to the fork and tightened the zip tie below it.
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Simple stuff. I too have one braze on on my fork (early Surly Troll). I bought a Topeak Modula Cage, one with a good heavy nylon frame. I drilled a small hole on both sides of the cage corresponding with the height of the bottom hole, then passed a zip tie through it. Before mounting the cage through the top hole to the fork I measured the distance from that top hole to the zip tie hole I had just made. Used a once around the fork wrap of bar tape and wrapped that with electrical tape. Then I mounted the top hole to the fork and tightened the zip tie below it.
Simple stuff. I too have one braze on on my fork (early Surly Troll). I bought a Topeak Modula Cage, one with a good heavy nylon frame. I drilled a small hole on both sides of the cage corresponding with the height of the bottom hole, then passed a zip tie through it. Before mounting the cage through the top hole to the fork I measured the distance from that top hole to the zip tie hole I had just made. Used a once around the fork wrap of bar tape and wrapped that with electrical tape. Then I mounted the top hole to the fork and tightened the zip tie below it.
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