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Old 03-20-17, 06:58 PM   #76
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To answer so many questions and undoubtable miss a few....
1. I am not looking for a race bike that can tour / in hindsight the 720 was a bad option.
2. I am sure I am missing another point here that someone asked
3. I do plan on camping, rear panniers (Ortleib back rollers) and a small tent. no idea what the total weight will be yet.
4. The bike will also become my commuter to work (when the weather agrees), only 8.5 miles


I suspect my first trips to be 60-80 miles daily and be from 4-7 days. I basically just want a bike that will hold up well for me, and not be a maintenance project. I want comfort over speed ( to a point) I don't expect to average 20MPH on whatever bike I choose. I ,like most, am budget minded so here's where I am so far (feel free to point out errors and ridicule me)


The 1.1 is cheaper and has better (IMO):
Front derailleur / Brakes (only slightly) / Rims / and tires.


Granted I have not rode it yet. If I get the 1.1, I suspect I'll put a Brooks saddle on it and get a front rack set up as well.

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Granted I have not rode it yet. If I get the 1.1, I suspect I'll put a Brooks saddle on it and get a front rack set up as well.
20% off starts this Friday. Touring season is comin up quick!
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20% off starts this Friday. Touring season is comin up quick!


ARGHHH. Just called the closest REI and was informed ....



"This year the 20% will not apply to bicycles, . . . and some other equipment." New policy.





This changes everything. I thanked him for saving me a 4 hour round trip. So now we start new...
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ARGHHH. Just called the closest REI and was informed ....

"This year the 20% will not apply to bicycles, . . . and some other equipment." New policy.

This changes everything. I thanked him for saving me a 4 hour round trip. So now we start new...
If I'm not mistaken it's been that way for a while (at least here in Colorado).
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To answer so many questions and undoubtable miss a few....
1. I am not looking for a race bike that can tour / in hindsight the 720 was a bad option.
2. I am sure I am missing another point here that someone asked
3. I do plan on camping, rear panniers (Ortleib back rollers) and a small tent. no idea what the total weight will be yet.
4. The bike will also become my commuter to work (when the weather agrees), only 8.5 miles


I suspect my first trips to be 60-80 miles daily and be from 4-7 days. I basically just want a bike that will hold up well for me, and not be a maintenance project. I want comfort over speed ( to a point) I don't expect to average 20MPH on whatever bike I choose. I ,like most, am budget minded so here's where I am so far (feel free to point out errors and ridicule me)


The 1.1 is cheaper and has better (IMO):
Front derailleur / Brakes (only slightly) / Rims / and tires.


Granted I have not rode it yet. If I get the 1.1, I suspect I'll put a Brooks saddle on it and get a front rack set up as well.
I'll stop pounding the podium and end my participation here with this...

You will do yourself a serious disservice by not at least exploring sport touring bikes as they are purpose built for the type of riding it sounds like you plan to use the bike for. Ride an AWOL, Vaya, Sequoia along with the LHT Marrakesh and Randonee/1.1 before spending your cash. On the Upside REI carries the Vaya and Marrakesh and they have a liberal test ride and return policy so you aren't on the hook to buy before you try and even if you do buy from REI you can return it if you're dissatisfied. Even without the coupon I'd still argue the 1.1 is a better bargain than the LHT, but that's just me.

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ARGHHH. Just called the closest REI and was informed ....
"This year the 20% will not apply to bicycles, . . . and some other equipment." New policy.
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My recollection is that in the past the coupon only applied to Novara branded bikes but I guess that changed now. I know for a fact the coupon applied when I purchased my Randonee.
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Might be of interest.
This was just a fun experiment. I have light Blackburn racks on my Defi II. I loaded the rears with a bunch of cloths. The rack bag with the days lunch/snacks. The front Panniers were basically newspaper. This was on the Terry Fox Day (Cancer fund raiser). I rode 178km that day, probably 30lbs of bags and contents. A test that inspired me to look at using my Defi II as a light weekend touring ride.

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ARGHHH. Just called the closest REI and was informed ....
"This year the 20% will not apply to bicycles, . . . and some other equipment." New policy.
This changes everything. I thanked him for saving me a 4 hour round trip. So now we start new...
Wow, thats rough. I checked the fine print on the back of the mailer they sent out and yup- bikes are excluded.
Maybe its one of their different 20% off sales which has bikes included? Multiple posters have bought bikes during one of the 20% off sales as recently as last year.
Odd.

At the retail price, you would still effectively get $110 back at the end of the year in credit thru REI's dividend program. And the bike is still priced comparable to others you are looking at.
But it certainly isnt as appealing as with the 20%, thats for sure.
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[QUOTE=mstateglfr;19456691]Wow, thats rough. I checked the fine print on the back of the mailer they sent out and yup- bikes are excluded.
........./QUOTE]

Hmm, I didn't get the mailer.... I figured there was a coupon coming up but knowing that it kicks in on Friday may be returning and re buying a recent purchase that has yet to be delivered.
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Might be of interest.
This was just a fun experiment. I have light Blackburn racks on my Defi II. I loaded the rears with a bunch of cloths. The rack bag with the days lunch/snacks. The front Panniers were basically newspaper. This was on the Terry Fox Day (Cancer fund raiser). I rode 178km that day, probably 30lbs of bags and contents. A test that inspired me to look at using my Defi II as a light weekend touring ride.

Hope this might help.



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I had actually considered this. I have a light rack. what did you get for the front racks? I'll also look at what the wheels are rated for. "IF" I go forward with this I plan on changing the stem to at least ease the geometry until I pull the trigger on a full blown tourer.
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As I entered the world of touring last spring. I discovered my new set of (4) Panniers were not weather resistant in hard rain. Looking on Kijiji I found used equipment that had done 2 X a month long tours in France, in the 80's. $75, for what had come off of his/hers 10 speeds. Making the racks all Blackburn aluminum racks. I believe what many were modeled after that era. I will look for something similar (current).

https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5038-7...t-Pannier-Rack

I believe you Americans can get something similar at REA

If I was planning on a Century/day. I would use my Defi II.

Last summer as I left on my 2450km tour my wishful goal was 100km/day @ say 100lbs + rider. 100 miles/day, wow (you can do it) ! Then get a heavy bike after you get hooked.

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