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03-31-17, 09:43 AM
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I see that claimed but I never trust it, it is an aluminum rack and doesn't seem like it has a particularly great design for holding that much weight (however not an engineer or any expert in that field). Sure you wouldn't be carrying that much unless you were crazy but I am weary it has that actual capacity and maybe that is the max they tested it too and just kept it at that to seem impressive?
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The Axioms are rated at a higher weight than the Tubus, 50-70kg (depending on Axiom model) v 40kg (Logo or Cargo). That said, even I can't imagine trying to carry that much weight on a single rack, both should hold far more than the average person is ever going to need. As far as weight, the Axiom mentioned above is 300g heavier than the Cargo, rather negligible if you are putting 40kg on it.
03-31-17, 02:31 PM
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Hauling too much on the back weird handling has caused people to spread some gear to the front set of panniers..
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Thanks for the input all - think the Tubus racks are nice and fit the criteria but are a bit pricy for what they are.
The Tubus logo come in at around £100 in the UK!!!!
Don't think I would go down the trunk bag route (didnt realise the topeak was designed for add on bits). I have used trunk bags before but didn't really get along with them, found the capacity was small for the additional bulk they added, so will pick up the Axiom
The Tubus logo come in at around £100 in the UK!!!!
Don't think I would go down the trunk bag route (didnt realise the topeak was designed for add on bits). I have used trunk bags before but didn't really get along with them, found the capacity was small for the additional bulk they added, so will pick up the Axiom
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The Axioms are rated at a higher weight than the Tubus, 50-70kg (depending on Axiom model) v 40kg (Logo or Cargo). That said, even I can't imagine trying to carry that much weight on a single rack, both should hold far more than the average person is ever going to need. As far as weight, the Axiom mentioned above is 300g heavier than the Cargo, rather negligible if you are putting 40kg on it.
Tubus says that putting the quick release mount on a Logo reduces the limit to 25kg which seems very reasonable.
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03-31-17, 04:25 PM
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03-31-17, 04:28 PM
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For letting your boy/girlfriend sit on it, a Dutch Opa/Oma Bike rear carrier has been proven to be strong,
but that was not in the A/B choice list ..
Topeak vs, Axoim
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but that was not in the A/B choice list ..
Topeak vs, Axoim
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03-31-17, 07:44 PM
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I question that 50 kg limit as well. I suspect that it is a metric to imperial translation error. Comparing the construction of the Journey Uni-fit and the way that it attaches to the bike to the Topeak Super Tourist, they look very similar. The Super tourist is limited to 30 kg (60 lb) which I would still consider high for a quick release mounted rack. I really suspect the weight limit is 50 pounds or 22 kg.
If I really need to carry 40kg+ on the back rack, once again I am neither buying an inexpensive option in the Axiom, nor am I trying to find something lightweight to shave off a couple hundred grams in the Tubus. I'd think for anyreasonable off the shelf options, any practicable load that you would want to carry will be more than fine.
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Doesn't make a difference. The 20% VAT has to be paid in England on £100 rack. The tax would be less on the £65 rack as well.
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04-01-17, 09:06 AM
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Can't say if it is or not, but as Axiom is a Canadian company, I'd find it suspicious that they would measure in pounds and then screw up the conversion to kilos. That, and their website clearly states "70 kg / 154 lbs", at least for the rack I have: Journey - Journey Racks - Racks - Products - Axiom Cycling Gear
If I really need to carry 40kg+ on the back rack, once again I am neither buying an inexpensive option in the Axiom, nor am I trying to find something lightweight to shave off a couple hundred grams in the Tubus. I'd think for anyreasonable off the shelf options, any practicable load that you would want to carry will be more than fine.
If I really need to carry 40kg+ on the back rack, once again I am neither buying an inexpensive option in the Axiom, nor am I trying to find something lightweight to shave off a couple hundred grams in the Tubus. I'd think for anyreasonable off the shelf options, any practicable load that you would want to carry will be more than fine.
On the other hand, the Surly steel rack has a similar capacity to the Tubus (40 kg).
I agree with your thoughts on carrying 40 kg on a rear rack. Speaking as a touring cyclist that doesn't do the ultralight thing, I would find carrying a total load of 40kg (front and rear) to be carrying around too much stuff. Even back in the days of 7 lb "lightweight" tents, I never carried that much stuff.
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