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Old 05-17-17, 03:46 AM   #26
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You must be one tough dude to be able to carry 4 sleeping systems, umbrella, stainless steel thermos jug, and a folding chair on tours. Have you ever toured in a place that has hills?
He forgot to mention the motor that helps him lug all this gear...
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Bah! Who needs a tent and sleeping bag anyway! If they can do it on Naked and Afraid, YOU CAN TOO!
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You must be one tough dude to be able to carry 4 sleeping systems, umbrella, stainless steel thermos jug, and a folding chair on tours. Have you ever toured in a place that has hills?
I am curious about the photos that you can find on the Internets, like this one of the guy in the hammock, which can be found several places:


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Total newbie into touring/bikepacking and looking to start doing over night trips during the weekends and is looking for recommendation for a sleeping system and or shelter. I will be doing solo trips so it will only need to fit myself. My budget would be around 300-400 dollars. Anyone have any suggestions ?
A recent GCN video on this topic, thought I'd share just in case there was any information that would be helpful for you. At the least the GCN guys are always entertaining.

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or this one, copyrighted by Bryon Dorr, conveniently cropped to remove the identifier:

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Thanks a lot for all the great answers, I have now ordered a sleeping bag that suites around 10c and a sleeping pad. I, thinking of starting up just sleeping in windshields or just outside in the sleeping the bag but not sure what's steps I need to take to do that.
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You must be one tough dude to be able to carry 4 sleeping systems, umbrella, stainless steel thermos jug, and a folding chair on tours. Have you ever toured in a place that has hills?
Yes, I am pretty familiar with climbing. I use an electric motor to assist that helps me go places and camp where others ride just to snap a few pics and then start down. Turn up your nose if you will but I like riding out of a base camp to learn an area well. Can I take everything I use anywhere I want? Not at all, but no one can without a helicopter that is barfing its exhaust into the atmosphere.
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He forgot to mention the motor that helps him lug all this gear...
The topic is Sleeping systems, not electric motors John.
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Thanks a lot for all the great answers, I have now ordered a sleeping bag that suites around 10c and a sleeping pad. I, thinking of starting up just sleeping in windshields or just outside in the sleeping the bag but not sure what's steps I need to take to do that.
Good start but what if rain is possible? Call off the trip? How bout bugs? Do you sleep well with skeeters buzzing around your face all night? At the very least I'd add an emergency waterproof bivy (SOL makes a cheapy that breathes well enough) and some sort of bug net thing. Spend a bit more and you could get an ultralight bivy with built in bug netting. Also if you got an air pad you probably want something between that and the ground so it doesn't get holes poked in it, a bivy will take care of this as well, or you could go with a tarp or tent ground sheet...
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At the very least I'd add an emergency waterproof bivy (SOL makes a cheapy that breathes well enough) and some sort of bug net thing. Spend a bit more and you could get an ultralight bivy with built in bug netting. Also if you got an air pad you probably want something between that and the ground so it doesn't get holes poked in it, a bivy will take care of this as well, or you could go with a tarp or tent ground sheet...
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As an example of a bivy, Massdrop currently have a drop on the Outdoor Research Helium Bivy at US$109.99 which seems to be a good price. You may have to sign-up to access the details if you are not a Massdrop user.


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Good start but what if rain is possible? Call off the trip? How bout bugs? Do you sleep well with skeeters buzzing around your face all night? At the very least I'd add an emergency waterproof bivy (SOL makes a cheapy that breathes well enough) and some sort of bug net thing. Spend a bit more and you could get an ultralight bivy with built in bug netting. Also if you got an air pad you probably want something between that and the ground so it doesn't get holes poked in it, a bivy will take care of this as well, or you could go with a tarp or tent ground sheet...
Yes, that's really what i ask what i need more than just a sleeping bad and a pad. For the first overnighter i am planning there is plenty of windshields along the trail so i dont that will be a big problem on that trip.
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Have a look at a Gatewood Cape for $135 and 13oz. You can use a fall branch for a pole and stakes - has room to sit-up, cook inside, move around a bit, a unique bug deterrent, and it multi-tasks.
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Take 2 tarps and you can rig them into anything the situation demands. You can rig one into a hammock and the other into an overhead cover, or into a more classical tent, or rig one into one of those 1 person body length tents that are close to the ground for stealth, and cover your bike with the other, or you can rig them into an open air tent and use one as ground cover. The possibilities are endless. You are much more flexible that way.
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Take 2 tarps and you can rig them into anything the situation demands. You can rig one into a hammock and the other into an overhead cover, or into a more classical tent, or rig one into one of those 1 person body length tents that are close to the ground for stealth, and cover your bike with the other, or you can rig them into an open air tent and use one as ground cover. The possibilities are endless. You are much more flexible that way.
Absolutely correct, make one of the tarps Cubin Fiber or Dyneema. Completely waterproof and whisper lite.
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I an looking currentley looking into one of Hillebergs solo tents but the question still accursed how do I fit it in my bike. Can I somehow hook a tent on my Salsa Fargo drop bars?

Suggestions how to do that would be helpful
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I am curious about the photos that you can find on the Internets, like this one of the guy in the hammock, which can be found several places:

Amok Equipment Draumr Hammock ? The GearCaster
Took a couple pics while camping in Oregon for the eclipse, just for you Mr. D. Thomas. - PicPaste - DSC01484__2_-IOfPLmt1.JPG
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Pardon the hijack - That is a cool hammock!
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A lot depends on how you do things. For me I use a sub $20 closed cell foam pad I bought at Walmart. I use a now unavailable down sleeping bag I pad around $80 for at Walmart that goes down to 32 degrees. I've had it out in my yard on 34 degree nights and I was fine with basically nothing on for clothes...different people sleep differently with the same rated sleeping bags. Some people will freeze their butt off with a 40 degree bag when its 40 degrees out awhile others with the same bag and same night will roast to death. Everybody in that regard is different so you haveto find what works for you...and to make matters worse I don't think their is really a strict criteria that the manufacturers must follow for rating their equipment, when it comes to sleeping bags. I only used my sleeping bag two or three nights on my last trip where I camped out around 75 nights. I carried but rarely used an old Eureka Zephyr one man free standing tent. Small footprint. I only set it up around 10 nights during the trip, most nights I just used the rainfly from the tent and tossed it on top of me acting like the tent and sleeping bag in one. Yes a decent chunk of the trip was down south in July so overnight lows were in the mid to upper 70s so I didn't need much in the way of any kind sleeping bag or tent unless I wanted to suffer. So your choice of when and where you are planning to tour will also decide what you need in true reality for a sleeping setup. If your going to be travelling near swamp country where mosquitoes are going to abound then you better have mosquito protection, otherwise by choosing your campsites carefully you can avoid the tent altogether and just use a piece of nylon draped over top of you like I did with the rainfly. IF your going up to Alaska or cold climates almost anytime of the year you better be prepared with a cold temp sleeping bag and probably a tent as well for the mosquitoes you will encounter. A lot depends on where and when you are going to be doing your travelling. You don't have to spend a fortune if you just learn to watch what you are doing. You could easily start slowly with a little and build out as time goes by and your demands on going to more rugged locations warrant the more demanding gear.
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With the OP's budget I would go with Wild Country Hoolie 2 tent, $150. Good, solid budget line from Terra Nova that offers plenty of room and pitches dry with the inner integral to the fly. REI Flash pad, $100. Very packable and light, plus quiet, comfortable and warm. Hammockgear Econ 40 degree quilt, $150. Their "budget" quilt that is much less expensive, but only slightly heavier than their top of the line quilt.

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I an looking currentley looking into one of Hillebergs solo tents but the question still accursed how do I fit it in my bike. Can I somehow hook a tent on my Salsa Fargo drop bars?

Suggestions how to do that would be helpful
I have the Hilleberg Enan. You can stuff the fly and inner anywhere, then strap the poles on the top tube. Or, as I do, carry the whole thing in a Revelate Handlebar Harness.
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here is mine,
Kelty 1p tent, $109
nemo-tensor-air-pad $104
Amazon air pillow $15
Bag of you temp range and pack volume size $-$$$$ pending how much you want to carry and how much volume is important to you. I got the one below, it's LIGHT and packable. About 7 pounds for my sleep system, tent is half that weight.



https://www.kelty.com/salida-1/ $109 on Amazon prime

https://www.rei.com/product/896024/nemo-tensor-air-pad

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It takes some learning to use properly and also an air mattress but the support is great and totally bug-free.
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Have a look at a Gatewood Cape for $135 and 13oz. You can use a fall branch for a pole and stakes - has room to sit-up, cook inside, move around a bit, a unique bug deterrent, and it multi-tasks.
Interesting, but what do you do when you have to choose between tent or raingear? That would nix it for me, as when it's raining I'm not always in the tent.
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Interesting, but what do you do when you have to choose between tent or raingear? That would nix it for me, as when it's raining I'm not always in the tent.
I always take a 3oz DWR windshirt as part of my camp clothing, or I can use my vestibule tyvek groundsheet - either of those suffice for short rain excursions like bathroom runs. But I agree, if you're going to be base camping (eg, last week @ ADVMoto rally) then it just serves as shelter only - and still my favorite shelter, by far.
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