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Ohhh man... I think I stepped in it again!
I recently switched out my old brake levers for something more exotic...
A pair of Cane Creek TT200's on my rather strange handlebar setup (it works for me)
The problem is that these new levers don't seem to pull enough slack, and thus bottom out on the bar end. The pads are as close to the rim as is possible without getting some rub.
Brakes are V-type, and my questions are, will switching to canti's solve the problem, and how much of a PITA is it to swap out?
I recently switched out my old brake levers for something more exotic...
A pair of Cane Creek TT200's on my rather strange handlebar setup (it works for me)
The problem is that these new levers don't seem to pull enough slack, and thus bottom out on the bar end. The pads are as close to the rim as is possible without getting some rub.
Brakes are V-type, and my questions are, will switching to canti's solve the problem, and how much of a PITA is it to swap out?
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Yep, switch them out for cantis or add travel agents on your V-brakes. Those levers are designed to pull road calipers, where V-brakes require a bit more cable pull than what those levers can provide.
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Yeah that's the problem, the TT levers are for canti's/sidepulls. You've got two options if you want to keep the levers.
1. Use a travel agent, its a pulley that replaces the noodle and fixes the cable pull
2. buy canti's
1. Use a travel agent, its a pulley that replaces the noodle and fixes the cable pull
2. buy canti's
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Originally Posted by The Fixer
... or add travel agents on your V-brakes.
But seriously... I think I'd rather go with the canti's. So... what wonderful problems will I run into with that path of action? Will they attach w/o a prob to the where my V-brakes attach.
Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions, but you ARE the FIXER!
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Ehhh... look at this
Looks like I ain't the only dumb bunny to get caught in this snare.
And it looks like the solutions are exactly what you said, Fixer.
Damn, I love this forum.
The power of the collective.
Looks like I ain't the only dumb bunny to get caught in this snare.
And it looks like the solutions are exactly what you said, Fixer.
Damn, I love this forum.
The power of the collective.
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1. Use a travel agent, its a pulley that replaces the noodle and fixes the cable pull
Are they any pictures of these things?
When I google BICYCLE BRAKE TRAVEL AGENT I don't exactly get what I'm looking for, if you can imagine.
Are they any pictures of these things?
When I google BICYCLE BRAKE TRAVEL AGENT I don't exactly get what I'm looking for, if you can imagine.
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Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
You mean like Hotwire?
Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions, but you ARE the FIXER!
Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions, but you ARE the FIXER!
Cantis mount on the same brake studs your V-brakes are mounted on. Should be an easy swap.
I don't like using on-line travel agents like HOTWIRE.... I like the mechanical kind, as pictured below, they work better... although I personally like using cantis over the travel agent/V-brake arrangement
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Originally Posted by The Fixer
No, Fixer as in riding fixed gear...
If so, you either have quads of steel, or ya live in Kansas!
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Thanks for the pic...
But from what I'm reading, initially installing a T.A. can be a royal pain.
I think I'm leaning towards just installing canti's.
Any recommendations?
But from what I'm reading, initially installing a T.A. can be a royal pain.
I think I'm leaning towards just installing canti's.
Any recommendations?
Originally Posted by The Fixer
No, Fixer as in riding fixed gear...
Cantis mount on the same brake studs your V-brakes are mounted on. Should be an easy swap.
I don't like using on-line travel agents like HOTWIRE.... I like the mechanical kind, as pictured below, they work better... although I personally like using cantis over the travel agent/V-brake arrangement
Cantis mount on the same brake studs your V-brakes are mounted on. Should be an easy swap.
I don't like using on-line travel agents like HOTWIRE.... I like the mechanical kind, as pictured below, they work better... although I personally like using cantis over the travel agent/V-brake arrangement
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Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
You mean like Hotwire?
But seriously... I think I'd rather go with the canti's. So... what wonderful problems will I run into with that path of action? Will they attach w/o a prob to the where my V-brakes attach.
Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions, but you ARE the FIXER!
But seriously... I think I'd rather go with the canti's. So... what wonderful problems will I run into with that path of action? Will they attach w/o a prob to the where my V-brakes attach.
Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions, but you ARE the FIXER!
For the rear you will probably have to go with one the attaches to the pinch bolt on the seat clamp like this.
For the brakes, I'd suggest Avid Shorty 4 or 6. Good brakes fairly easy to adjust. Easiest to adjust were the old Onza H.O. You might beable to find them on Ebay.
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Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
You mean like Hotwire?
But seriously... I think I'd rather go with the canti's. So... what wonderful problems will I run into with that path of action? Will they attach w/o a prob to the where my V-brakes attach.
Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions, but you ARE the FIXER!
But seriously... I think I'd rather go with the canti's. So... what wonderful problems will I run into with that path of action? Will they attach w/o a prob to the where my V-brakes attach.
Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions, but you ARE the FIXER!
i agree with Fixer, go with v-brakes and travel agents ... i had some on a previous mtb and they work fine when installed and set up correctly ... plus v-brakes have much better stopping power. v-brakes are also easier to work on and set up, in my experiences.
i have swapped the cantis on my nomad for v-brakes, and have never looked back ...
if you decide to go the canti route anyway, i have a very low mileage set of avid shorty 6's
cheers,
hoogie
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Jeez.... now ya got me vacillating back to the Travel Agent route.
I'm beginning to feel like John Kerry.
I'm beginning to feel like John Kerry.
Originally Posted by cyccommute
The cantilevers mount to the same bosses as the V-brake. That shouldn't be a problem. You will need a cable stop for the front and rear cantilevers however. For the front, there is a clamp that goes on your threadless headset that has an cable adjustment on it like this. It will have to clamp to the stem.
For the rear you will probably have to go with one the attaches to the pinch bolt on the seat clamp like this.
For the brakes, I'd suggest Avid Shorty 4 or 6. Good brakes fairly easy to adjust. Easiest to adjust were the old Onza H.O. You might beable to find them on Ebay.
For the rear you will probably have to go with one the attaches to the pinch bolt on the seat clamp like this.
For the brakes, I'd suggest Avid Shorty 4 or 6. Good brakes fairly easy to adjust. Easiest to adjust were the old Onza H.O. You might beable to find them on Ebay.
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I agree with Hoogie, the TA and V-brakes is the way to go. The TA is a very simple little device and lets you keep your v-brakes which are much better anyway.
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Thanks for your input...
I think my decision is made.
Next question... are these T.A.'s ubiquitous enough that just about any LBS can handle the job?
I think my decision is made.
Next question... are these T.A.'s ubiquitous enough that just about any LBS can handle the job?
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I agree with Hoogie, the TA and V-brakes is the way to go. The TA is a very simple little device and lets you keep your v-brakes which are much better anyway.
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Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
Thanks for your input...
I think my decision is made.
Next question... are these T.A.'s ubiquitous enough that just about any LBS can handle the job?
I think my decision is made.
Next question... are these T.A.'s ubiquitous enough that just about any LBS can handle the job?
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Just to get you to waffle more than John Kerry's opponent, the one time I tried travel assistants I was not impressed. They take a lot of fussing to get just sort of right. Bad cantilevers are preferable.
If it were my bike, I would give up the TT200's and install a conventional set of MTB levers next to the shifters and keep my brakes. (Only personal preference here)
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Just to get you to waffle more than John Kerry's opponent
I just know from experience that BOTH of the Massachusian Senators aren't worth the oxygen they consume.
I'm more of the Buchanan-Mind-Your-Own-Business-Get-Off-Of-Oil constructionist conservative.
But BACK TO MY DILEMMA.... I gots $$$ concerns as well as rack clearence considerations... did I mention that I tour with a front suspension???
Nope... I think the T.A.'s is the path I'm taking.
Sometimes ya either piss, or get the F off the pot.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Just to get you to waffle more than John Kerry's opponent, the one time I tried travel assistants I was not impressed. They take a lot of fussing to get just sort of right. Bad cantilevers are preferable.
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Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
Ohhh man... I think I stepped in it again!
I recently switched out my old brake levers for something more exotic...
A pair of Cane Creek TT200's on my rather strange handlebar setup (it works for me)
I recently switched out my old brake levers for something more exotic...
A pair of Cane Creek TT200's on my rather strange handlebar setup (it works for me)
Good luck with the brakes!
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Originally Posted by Magictofu
Wow... that is a strange handlebar! Do you have more pictures of your bike, I'm not sure I understand the whole system and I'm always curious these kind of transformation.
Good luck with the brakes!
Good luck with the brakes!
Ahh yes....
My system is based on the angles created by the straight bar and the 3 sets of bar ends (two facing backwards, and the most central set acting as "aeros".
Basically, I use the angles to rest the heel and lower thumb area in different positions and wrist angles
The middle portion of the lower hand (where all the nerves and arteries run) never gets compressed on the bar.
I've tried drops, mustache and plain ol' straights, and this is by far the most comfy setup I've ever piloted (except for that foray with the recumbent ;-)
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Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
Ahh yes....
My system is based on the angles created by the straight bar and the 3 sets of bar ends (two facing backwards, and the most central set acting as "aeros".
Basically, I use the angles to rest the heel and lower thumb area in different positions and wrist angles
The middle portion of the lower hand (where all the nerves and arteries run) never gets compressed on the bar.
I've tried drops, mustache and plain ol' straights, and this is by far the most comfy setup I've ever piloted (except for that foray with the recumbent ;-)
My system is based on the angles created by the straight bar and the 3 sets of bar ends (two facing backwards, and the most central set acting as "aeros".
Basically, I use the angles to rest the heel and lower thumb area in different positions and wrist angles
The middle portion of the lower hand (where all the nerves and arteries run) never gets compressed on the bar.
I've tried drops, mustache and plain ol' straights, and this is by far the most comfy setup I've ever piloted (except for that foray with the recumbent ;-)
I also noticed you placed a couple of bottle holders in an unconventional place... your bike is some kind of mutant !
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Well.. what I have is a Delta front rack.
I took some aluminum angle iron, and created a "dual bottle holder" that attaches to the front "hoop" and the then to the fork.
It works great on tours. All 4 of my bottles (the two on the rack, and the two in the "nomal" place) are grabbable.
And yes.... it is a mutant. But it's MY mutant.
I took some aluminum angle iron, and created a "dual bottle holder" that attaches to the front "hoop" and the then to the fork.
It works great on tours. All 4 of my bottles (the two on the rack, and the two in the "nomal" place) are grabbable.
And yes.... it is a mutant. But it's MY mutant.
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Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
I've tried drops, mustache and plain ol' straights, and this is by far the most comfy setup I've ever piloted (except for that foray with the recumbent ;-)
https://www.jonesbikes.com/hbar/default.asp