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    Cannondale Touring Bikes & Tire Width

    Would someone who has a Cannondale T2000 or T800 be kind enough to tell me how wide a tire I might fit on one of these bikes? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chennai
    Would someone who has a Cannondale T2000 or T800 be kind enough to tell me how wide a tire I might fit on one of these bikes? Thanks.
    Pretty much anything. I have 37mm tires now with plenty of additional clearance available.
    Greg

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    How do you think a 42 front and a 40 rear would work? Would I have fender room, too? (That seems too good to be true!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chennai
    How do you think a 42 front and a 40 rear would work? Would I have fender room, too? (That seems too good to be true!)
    OK, I got out my calipers and I have 52 mm width under a standard width fender and a total height including the rim depth of 70mm. With room for clearances I would say that a maximum tire size would be about 47mm in actual width and 65mm in actual height (tire plus rim). Remember the stated tire size is rarely the actual size on your rim, but it looks you would have no problem.

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    Thanks very much. Do you like the bike? I need something to ride unimproved gravel roads - odd as that sounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chennai
    Thanks very much. Do you like the bike? I need something to ride unimproved gravel roads - odd as that sounds.
    Yes I like the bike very much, however if my primary intention was touring, or just riding on unimproved gravel roads, I would want a bike primarily designed for that; a mountain bike. If your are touring on those roads than a mountain bike pulling a BOB trailer.
    If these roads are just an occasional thing than the C'dale would be fine, though I would switch to mountain bike handlebars / brakes / shifters. That style bar will give you better control on those roads and with the side benefit of allowing you to get rid of the stock cantilever brakes and put on linear pull "Vbrakes".

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    Thanks for the advice.

    I've tried a couple variations - my mountain bike and my cyclocross bike. My mountain bike is just clunky on the long gravel flats and climbs. Without twists and turns that force me to shift my weight around, it gets a bit tiresome. I feel like a slug on the climbs, particularly when I find myself staring at my suspension fork.

    The cyclocross bike often feels great but is downright scary on bladed and newly graveled sections. The narrower tires continually try to head south to the very depths of the road bed. I cannot get really wide tires on my cross frame - some unsightly rub marks on the inside of my chainstays are evidence of my failure to consider frame flex!

    My idea is to try a very wide front and a pretty wide back tire - rather like a 29er but with a road position. I can buy a T800, sight unseen, or switch my cross components over to a Surly frame that a friend wants to get rid of.

    Your thoughts are welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chennai
    Thanks for the advice.

    I've tried a couple variations - my mountain bike and my cyclocross bike. My mountain bike is just clunky on the long gravel flats and climbs. Without twists and turns that force me to shift my weight around, it gets a bit tiresome. I feel like a slug on the climbs, particularly when I find myself staring at my suspension fork.

    The cyclocross bike often feels great but is downright scary on bladed and newly graveled sections. The narrower tires continually try to head south to the very depths of the road bed. I cannot get really wide tires on my cross frame - some unsightly rub marks on the inside of my chainstays are evidence of my failure to consider frame flex!

    My idea is to try a very wide front and a pretty wide back tire - rather like a 29er but with a road position. I can buy a T800, sight unseen, or switch my cross components over to a Surly frame that a friend wants to get rid of.

    Your thoughts are welcome.
    There are a lot of people on this forum that absolutely love the Surly frame, I'm sure they could advise you on what size tires it can handle and if the geometry is good for your application. To me it is a 1970's technology, heavy steel frame, but that is just one person's opinion.

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    All my bikes are steel. I have always wanted a Cannondale, but until now, they've been out of my price range. The recent breathless encomiums to steel and a week's worth of riding of an aluminum Lemond have made me doubt. The Lemond was . . . well, like I was riding a brick. I always sought stiff bikes, but this felt bad - jarring in an unpleasant way.

    I know Cannondale has had a great deal of time to work out the feel of Al frames and has had much more experience with aluminum than Lemond. (The Lemond was a mid-range, imported frame with junky wheels and weird components.) So, I rather think I will go with the Cannondale. Wonder whether the welds will be those nice, smooth things that once made Cannondale's so pretty.

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    I have an 03 T2000 and have run Panaracer Paselas in 32 and 35 and Conti top touring 37's that came with the bike. The bike could take something much wider, I'm sure, but the Pasela 35's do the trick for me - have ridden fully loaded on gravel roads and trails with no problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregw
    my primary intention was touring, or just riding on unimproved gravel roads, I would want a bike primarily designed for that;
    Bruce Gordon Cycles makes both stock models of our touring bikes in both 26" and 700c wheels.
    If you are riding a lot of gravel roads - I think the 26" wheel models make more sense, because they will accept up to a full mountain bike sized tire.
    Any questions - feel free to give us a call.
    Regards,
    Bruce Gordon
    www.bgcycles.com

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