When you go on tour what type of bike lock do you bring? Do you even bring one? If you don't bring one, have you ever been in a situation where you wished you had had one?if so how did you compensate for this? I was also wondering what type of kickstand is most popular to support a loaded rig?... also If anyone has ortlieb rear packs, how does the anti theft system hold up in the real world? Is there anything else that I could use to help avoid theft? Thanks!
It depends on where you'll be. I have used a light (1/4") bike combination cable when touring here. That worked fine for 2 bikes touring in the rural US. When we went to europe this year, took a longer, larger Kryptonite cable and a heavy duty padlock. That seemed like overkill most of the time since we were only in big cities a couple of times.
I use a rear mount avenir kickstand. Though it's not very beefy, it has done the trick with my loaded bike.
'94 Trek 520, '00 Rivendell, '72 Motobecane Grand Record, Two '02 Koga Miyatas', '83 Fuji Touring, '64 Raleigh Sports, '05 REI Safari, circa '90 Schwinn Woodlands
When I toured, I used a cable lock Kryptonite 5' x 3/8" combo lock. Got it at Home Depow (or Lowes). It is 1 ft shorter than the ones sold at bike shops and about $4 cheaper. Avoid the curly ones, too tangled around the spokes. I also lock the brakes with bands (see my URL below for info.) This is for places with less security risk. Always rate where you leave your bike for the risk factor and do what it takes.
I plan to go to Europe next year and have Ortlieb panneirs. Their lock system is a little light so I made my own based on what they do. Pull the hanger apart and install 3/32" galvanized wire cable with a loop at each end. (The ortlieb only has one loop.) Standard 3/32" ferrels hammered down hold the loop. I then plasti-dip'ed (a plastic dip used on plier handles,etc. Again at Home Depot, in paints.) the loops after wrapping the cut ends with tape. I also made a couple long 3 ft and 6 ft cables with loops on the end to thread through all 4 panniers and secure them to the bike frame, rack, tree,etc. I use my bike cable as the lock. While I can cut the 3/32" cable with sharp electricians pliers, the grab and run theft will not have them. Heavier cable will not thread through the pannier hangers. See the attached photos for the idea.
On to the kick stand. When I went touring in New Mexico I knew that there were few trees in the area that I could use to stand up my bike, so I devised a bike prop for the trip. It is much-much more sturdy than any kickstand. I have used it subsequently on two trips to Alaska. One with panniers and one with a BOB trailer and front panniers. I found it so handy that people ask me about it. I put the idea on my web site. You can see it at http://www.krabach.info/bike_light/bike_prop.htm The page also explains the above brake lock, which is simplicity itself.