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Old 08-31-05, 04:53 AM   #1
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tubus locc rack

looks like the tubus locc rack came out in europe at the beginning of the year, but haven't seen any mention anywhere:


anybody know if this is available in north america? i was about to get the logo, but wasn't happy with the narrow platform. this certainly looks wider and resembles the cargo's. and an improvement over the cargo is the tube caps look to be recessed, so they are less likely to come off and allow water inside.
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Gotta have one, based on this:

"With this solution starting from US handle locks of different size insert themselves also optically very harmoniously into the entire seeming picture of the Rades."

Seriously though, I'm thinking of getting a logo. The narrower top surface doesn't matter to me and I like the idea of the panniers being lower and further back. I'd be using it on a CX bike that has chainstays that are short enough that I have had heel strike problems.
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Old 08-31-05, 08:26 AM   #3
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Gotta have one, based on this:

"With this solution starting from US handle locks of different size insert themselves also optically very harmoniously into the entire seeming picture of the Rades."

Seriously though, I'm thinking of getting a logo. The narrower top surface doesn't matter to me and I like the idea of the panniers being lower and further back. I'd be using it on a CX bike that has chainstays that are short enough that I have had heel strike problems.
According to an article in Bicycling Magazine, back when they were actually informative, moving the panniers on the back down and further back has deleterious effects on the handling unlike moving the front bags down and away.
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Can't help you about the LOCC. I've been wondering about the same thing. Looks like a very nice rack.

I've been using a Logo for a year now and I can't say my handling has detoriated, or if it did, I didn't notice. The narrower platform never bothered me but then, I rarely use it. The few times I did, the lower mounting point was welcomed as it puts the top of the pannier even with the platform, so the platform combined with the panniers is flat and it might be easier to dig in the top pocket of your panniers (can't tell as I only used the platform for commuting so far). The added tube were the panniers attach also make for more anchor points for bungee cords. I have no regrets and would still choose the Logo over the Cargo.

As for heel clearance, I didn't have problems with my previous rack, but it was a pro for the Logo. I'm not sure you gain that much though.
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looks like there may be a problem with the logo on rough roads. that may explain why one of the bars in the loc is thicker than the logo.
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looks like there may be a problem with the logo on rough roads. that may explain why one of the bars in the loc is thicker than the logo.
Yeah but to quote the poster that is linked to above: "On my first tour with a Tubus rack it broke 3 times, the first time after only 2 days on rough roads. Totally unacceptable given that I didn't overload it. Well I didn't think I overloaded it, but the max weight according to the Tubus website (40kg) differs from what Tubus now tell me (30kg)..."

From this I'm guessing that the author had ~40Kg on his/her rear rack. Thats ~80 pounds which, to me anyways, seems like a LOT.

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"...So I contacted Tubus when I got home ... and they tell me that there is a problem with Logo racks in that the lower attachment eyes are suseptible to breakage on rough roads (particularly corrugated roads) and that they've since strengthened this part."
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I had only about 35kg on the rack, which the guy from Tubus admitted should not have been enough to break it. I was carrying a lot, but then I had 10 litres of water sometimes and food for a few days, plus all the usual spares you need when you tour in the third world where nothing is available.

Just to put this breakage in context, I used a Tourtec Tourlite rack in Ethiopia (where the roads are worse than anywhere else I've been) which is only rated to 20kg. I carried only 5kg less than I had on my Tubus Logo (no water on the back). It did break eventually, but after several weeks of abuse and the breakage was at a weld which was easily fixed with a cable tie (and lasted to the end of the trip). So I'm not yet convinced that Tubus racks are quite as strong as they claim.

I bought my rack in April of this year so any improvemnt has probably been made after this.
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According to an article in Bicycling Magazine, back when they were actually informative, moving the panniers on the back down and further back has deleterious effects on the handling unlike moving the front bags down and away.
This'd be for my commuter, not a heavy loaded touring bicycle. As such, I need the volume of the panniers, but won't be carrying a whole lot of weight in them as you would be while touring.
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This'd be for my commuter, not a heavy loaded touring bicycle. As such, I need the volume of the panniers, but won't be carrying a whole lot of weight in them as you would be while touring.
Have you tried front low-riders? I prefer them even for commuting over a set of rear bags. Gets rid of the hassle of heel strike entirely.
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heard back from ortlieb and they have them in stock and available to all their authorized retailers. waiting to hear back from wayne at thetouringstore.com when he's going to get some.
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Have you tried front low-riders? I prefer them even for commuting over a set of rear bags. Gets rid of the hassle of heel strike entirely.
Hmmm. I do have a set of Ortlieb Front Roller Plus panniers I'm not using, and my bike does have braze-ons for a front rack. But maybe I'll just try using the front panniers in the rear for commuting, since I doubt I need the full capacity of the back ones. A pair of Back Rollers holds a LOT of stuff.
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I ended up ordering a Tubus Vega:



...from Wayne at The Touring Store instead of the more heavy duty models. The new-to-the-USA Vega is basically a Logo without the additional side racks.

This is for my commuter and I won't be doing heavy loaded touring on it, so the 25kg capacity of the Vega should be enough. Wayne also has some adapters that move the rack back a little for additional heel clearance, so I ordered a set of those too.

I should have it later this week.
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