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    Mavic A319 Vs A719

    What are the practical differences between the Mavic A319 and the A719? Is the A719 a stronger rim? I just nearly taco'd a new Salsa Delgado and am now looking for a stronger rim.

    My Mavic T520s lasted for years...

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    I do not know the difference. I can attest that the A719 is very sturdy...I weigh 190 and with panniers and luggage did a fairly rough tour on roads including rocky trails and scree..........one unscheduled drop off a 8" curb (ouch). They are still true. They are not very light, however. E-mail Peter White for advice...he builds good wheels (built mine) and has large experience with rims.

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    This is exactly the question I have in mind. I already have an A719 at the rear, and now face the choice of either an A719 or an A319 on the front. The 319 is 30g lighter, but also A$40 cheaper. There are also some other design differences, although they look similar from the outside.

    I use my bike (A steel-framed Gemini Randonneur) for loaded touring around 20% of the time, the other 80% split between commuting and long leisure rides. Most (though not all) is on bitumen; the rest on normally fairly smooth unsealed roads.

    Any thoughts?
    Tom

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    The A319 is for 28" wheels, the A719 is for 26". At least, that's what my Roseversand catalogue here tells me.

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    My A719s are 700c....they are about two years old...don't know if they are still made in that size

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    I had a set of A719s built up for my LHT commuter last november. They were 700c.

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    I ride 700c A719's on my touring bike and they are great. I am 6'4"/260lbs and have never had any problems with the rims going out of true. I also run a pair on my cyclocross bike; they too have been trouble free.
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    If you are worried about the price of A917s, czech this site out:

    http://www.wheel2wheel4bikes.com/pro...2b129s116p3419

    At $47.03, you can get a pair for the price of one! Just get this price checked at a website like www.speedgoat.com, and when you spend $100, you get free shipping. So, maybe you can pick up some tubes or tires for them, too?

    Either way it's a great deal.

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    That's euros not dollars. About 60 a piece, plus shipping and any duties.

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    In Euro Land the cheapest Mavic rims are at the link below. I've bought tons of stuff from this place and their prices can't be beat. The A719 is 33.20 euro which is a little under USD 43 for those of you keeping score at home.

    http://www.bike-components.de/catalo...da481ee0948c8e

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterpan1
    That's euros not dollars. About 60 a piece, plus shipping and any duties.
    Oddly enough, even though it's euros, the website www.speedgoat.com gives you that price in USD. I forgot to mention that, sorry.

    Also, I haven't tried the German site below, but the only Euros I've been able to get www.speedgoat to accept is the site I previously posted about. Give it a try: price match the rims with the website I previously posted and you'll get a pair for under $100. I've done it repeatedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom N.
    This is exactly the question I have in mind. I already have an A719 at the rear, and now face the choice of either an A719 or an A319 on the front. The 319 is 30g lighter, but also A$40 cheaper. There are also some other design differences, although they look similar from the outside.

    I use my bike (A steel-framed Gemini Randonneur) for loaded touring around 20% of the time, the other 80% split between commuting and long leisure rides. Most (though not all) is on bitumen; the rest on normally fairly smooth unsealed roads.

    Any thoughts?
    Tom
    You've got the weights backwards according to the Mavic website. The A719 is lighter. The 719 also has a welded joint which has been milled to be smooth. I assume that the 319 is a pinned rim. Not a big difference but, in my experience, pinned rims can have a slightly annoying 'bump' at the joint during braking.
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    FWIW, I'm having an A719/36h wheelsmith/LX combo built up in whitefish to replaced my cracked bontrager mavrick rear rim. I still have 3000mi left so, I'll be able to give you a full report, just take a while.
    I am the ultimate rim torture test -- 250+ lbs withy 75lbs of gear. I have broken ever rear rim I've had touring with exception of my 36 hole Rhynolites on my 26in converted tourer. I've seen the a719 and it looks really beefy and feel confident trusting it through eastern montana
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    The A719 is stronger than the A319/A119, according to specs I saw somewhere a few months back. It was something like 265lbs max for the A119/A319, and around 300lb for the A719, or whatever those numbers would be in Kg, which is what I saw. Not a huge difference but some extra margin for safety when loaded.
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