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Old 01-29-06, 03:17 PM   #1
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Will probably interest some of you.

Here she is. Will try to build her up in the next couple of weeks. Since it will be my first build, I figure there will be some of you who will be interested to follow along.
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Old 01-29-06, 04:38 PM   #2
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That's not a Surly LHT in Utility Blue is it? Neato! I'm looking forward to seeing how it looks built up!
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Old 01-29-06, 06:00 PM   #3
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Good eye, Sebach. Here she is unwrapped with her silver tierra on.
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Old 01-29-06, 06:08 PM   #4
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Nice, just picked up one myself, for $300 !
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Old 01-29-06, 06:26 PM   #5
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Nice!

Hey AJ, where did you find one for $300 clams?
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Old 01-29-06, 07:17 PM   #6
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Here are some ideas for your build..... I'll look forward to your results.


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Old 01-29-06, 08:39 PM   #7
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54cm is the largest size available:
http://aebike.com/site/page.cfm?PageID=30&SKU=FM0654
Quite a deal!
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Old 01-29-06, 08:51 PM   #8
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Here are some ideas for your build..... I'll look forward to your results.


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ridelots, is the frame size of the LHT a 46cm or 50cm?
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Please keep us posted on the progress of your build. I am certainly interested. I will be building up a LHT as soon as I can get my hands on a 62cm frame. I already have the components on hand (I think the parts really want to get built up and ridden, they are tired of sitting in that dark cardboard box!)
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Old 01-30-06, 08:10 PM   #10
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Frame and fork have been bathing in Amsoil MPHD. Don't know what frame saver is like (some on the board think the two are identical), but the MPHD leaves a waxy film which seems great for keeping moisture out. If you plan to use any of this stuff, be sure to do it outdoors! You don't want to breathe in any of it. Hang it overnight in the garage if possible. It will take a day to dry completely.

About the new blue color for 06. I think the pictures on the Surly site is pretty accurate. Some folks felt the previous sage green looked better in person than photos. Having never saw the green myself, I really can't comment. However, I really like the powdery blue.

The bike will be a tourer. My current steed is a recumbent which I have enjoyed touring on. So why am I changing? Well, to put it simply the bent is a pain to transport and only an ok climber. So I figure I'll give a DF a shot.

Oh yes, the budget! Since my target audience are those of you who are contemplating your on machine, I am sure the cost is on the top of your list. Well, the bike will be built with frugality in mind but with room for quality. So the budget will be no more than $999.99 Try buying a new 520 with that!
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Itís a 52cm. I was torn between the LTH & the Trek 17" 520. The main issue was LTH w/26" vs. Trek w/700c.
I researched the threads for a week or so and read many points. I went with the LTH and 26" wheels for all the versatility it offers. Just for fun I put on 2.2" Michelin mudders and rode trail & dirt road....then the next day put on the 1.5" slicks and kept on the road. Great winter training!

It is a bit sluggish and heavy....compared to my cyclocross....but for touring Iím guessing it will be good.
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Very nice! I can't wait to see that frame build up. I was hoping for the green because I already have a blue cyclocross bike but seeing that blue in a different light looks very nice. Now the Surly blog states that my size(60) won't be available till the end of March. Ahhh the wait.........
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Old 01-31-06, 10:06 PM   #13
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Originally, I was in the market for the cherry red trucker. As Pigtire can attest, Surly's ETAs for their frames are moving targets. Nonetheless, I'm very happy with the blue...oh, I think I already mentioned that.

OK, here are tonight's updates: headset, handlebar, shifters, stem, front and rear calipers are in! Before the parts went on, I had to spend quite a bit of time cleaning the MPHD off the frame and fork. I don't have all the components and parts, yet. However, my choices are pretty much final except for wheels. The only transplanted items I will add to the build are tires and pedals. They will not be included in the cost of the completed bike. I'm cheating a little - I hope y'all won't mind.

note: the bar is the 45cm 135. (I have some reservation about it now that it's on the bike. The top of the bar is slimmer than I anticipated.)
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Old 02-02-06, 10:17 AM   #14
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That's groovy. The blue looks a lot like the old Pacer blue, maybe a shade darker.

You'll like it with the bar-ends. That's a good setup for this bike.

One thing I encountered during my LHT build: lots of excess powder coat residue around the fork crown race collar and one of the dropout braze-ons. It may be too late now, but it's a good idea to face the HT and BB, and clean up all the crud around the for crown race collar.

I used the 45cm Nitto B115 bars on mine. They're nice (not too deep a drop), but with a threadless stem the whole thing is a lot stiffer than what I'm used to. The B115s are pretty stiff.

I took the rear rack off mine this morning; the Carradice fits much better on the thing without it.
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Old 02-03-06, 10:21 PM   #15
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I hear ya smasher. The fork crown definitely needed work. I will, however, not touch the BB. At least I will first try installing without facing it. The 115 bar was my second choice. If the 135 doesn't work out, I'll give the 115 a whirl.

wsexson - Build that baby! The parts practically jump onto the frame!

Well, the rims were chosen and they have arrived! 36H, sweeeeeettt....
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Old 02-03-06, 11:32 PM   #16
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Your wheel looks good! That should hold up well. What stem are you using? It looks nice too.

I am going to build mine up as soon as I can. The largest size available at the moment is 58. As soon as the 62 is in stock I am pulling the trigger!
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Old 02-05-06, 09:35 PM   #17
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BB, cranks, and RD are done. The cranks are the XD600 triple. If you are considering these cranks for your trucker, I would recommend the 113 length BB. I'm running 115 which is ok but I think the chainline would improve with the 113 for the bottom end. Oh and the clearance wrt the chainstay shouldn't be a problem either way. Of course, this is from the point of view of a 26T small chain ring.
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The cantilever brakes are on. I had a hell of a time putting the rear together. Instead of using the middle hole for inserting tension spring, I had to use the top (more tension) to keep the pad away from the rim when the lever was released. I added an extra spacer to make up for the additional distance this created. So what went wrong? I think the right braze on was misaligned during assembly. To the naked eye, the right is clearly set lower than the left. The front went on like butta so no problem there.
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Done.
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Wsexson, I hope this doesn't violate some sort of forum rule but I will be selling my 62cm green LHT on ebay in a about a month, hopefully. I am either going w/ a Soma double cross or crosscheck and having BTC's installed. If you are interested let me know but hopefully Surly will have them in stock by then.
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Neato: I faced EXACTLY THE SAME ISSUE on my LHT build: there wasn't enough spring tension in the calipers when the spring was mounted in the middle hole both f & r. (I'm using exactly the same calipers as you are--the new Shimano low-profile Avid Shorty/Tektro Oryx killers.)

I even contacted Surly about it, asking if it was possible that the canti studs were misaligned. They said "unlikely." (BTW--they were very quick to respond to me.) I haven't contacted Shimano.

Has anybody else faced this issue with this frame/brake caliper setup? What about other LHT riders/builders out there? Is this an issue with other brakes, too?

(I know this isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but it's the first time I've ever encountered something like this during a brake installation--certainly the first time with brand-new frame and brand-new calipers.)

Regarding possible misaligned studs (left-to-right): double-check that your wheel is all the way in the dropouts first. I didn't face a left-to-right issue alignment, but I did face the spring preload issue.

Again, this in no way affects the ridability of the bike at all, other than having a little bit more spring preload at the brake levers than I'd like. It just takes a strong squeeze.
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smasher - try mounting on the top pin hole and put the large spacer on the inside. These brakes have plenty of adjustments so you may be able to work it out.
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I have it mounted on the top pin hole now. That's what I'm saying.

I've got the skinny spacers facing inward. If I reversed 'em, it'd be even more of an issue.
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is it indeed an lht? i've been interested in getting one myself, but i don't have scads of money, so i've been keeping my eye out for say, a miyata 1000 i could get for cheap. but if that doesn't work out i'll splurge on an lht frame and build it up--which will also be a great learning experience. please to let us know how it goes.
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