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Old 02-11-06, 05:13 PM
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Just got my backcountry permit to the Deer Creek area of the Grand Canyon for June.

I've been hiking the Grand Canyon as part of my bike tours since 1995. I've hiked across the canyon 4 times and down and around a number of other times. The North Rim is soooo, soooo much nicer. There's a hiker/biker area near the campstore right on the edge of a side canyon and it's not far to the lodge with its magnificent vistas. If your tour takes you to the North Rim (Or South Rim for that matter), consider hiking down into the canyon. It really transforms the experience. On the North Rim, you can often find a spare backcountry permit for overnight hiking if you are flexible. Even a day hike is great - provided you start super early - spend the middle of the day splashing in the waters of Bright Angel Creek - and hike back up shaded by the canyon walls.

Some people wonder why I keep going back to the Grand Canyon. Whether I ever get bored. Could a person ever tire of the Grand Canyon? In a lifetime, could a person see it all? This year I will be in a remote section far from the North Rim lodge. Deer Creek and Thunder River are oases that have formed around waterfalls that that rush forth out of the canyon walls. There's a great paved road that leads southeast from Fredonia - then it turns to hardpack dirt at the national forest boundary. Then about 30 miles further you reach the trailhead on the rim. Then it's 9 miles straight down.

https://www.kaibab.org/bc/gc_tr_tr.htm
And a pic of Deer Creek - - https://www.kaibab.org/tr031/md_may_08_2003_161446.jpg
Water is a treasure in the inner canyon.

If you are heading to the Grand Canyon on your tour, I'll be glad to share what experience I have. Drop me an e-mail.

Best - J
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Old 02-11-06, 11:20 PM
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I'm glad you posted this. Your trip sounds great! I was just thinking about trying to plan our annual loaded spring bike tour for somewhere around the Grand Canyon, but I don't know anything about the area and was trying to figure out some 5-6 day routes that would get us either to the north rim or the south rim. I like to hike, but I don't think the rest of our group does so I was thinking we could at least ride to the rim and hopefully camp near it. What do you recommend? How is the weather there in mid-April?
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Old 02-12-06, 01:42 AM
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Mid April?

Well, the North Rim will still be closed. The highway is at 8000 to 9000 ft. Doesn't open until mid May. The South Rim is open year round. Here's the weather for the South Rim:
https://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?azgcn2
Still pretty chilly with a chance of snow. But if the weather is good, the view will be much clearer than in mid-summer with all the ozone polution from Calif. You could do a loop from Flagstaff, but it would be high elevation and very dicey.

A Zion loop might work better then. Compare:
https://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?utzion
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Thanks for the info. and yes, we are looking at mid April. I didn't realize the Grand Canyon rim was at such a high altitude. I agree, it's probably pretty risky with chance of snow. I will have to look into a Zion loop like you mentioned. That sounds nice too.
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