Okay, I really hate these types of questions, but here goes..
I'm no longer interested in "racing" or "racing" geometry road bikes. I want to get into long distance events. Besides the Surly line, can anyone recommend a frame for this type of riding. Old, new, whatever. I'm looking for frame/fork only, ~$500 or less. Prefer road style bikes to mtn style bikes, and steel. Needs to have rear rack mounts at least. Frames I have already looked at:
Soma Double Cross (I'd buy it if anyone had one in stock)
Urbane Tourist (Website looks good)
Surlys (Cross Check and LHT)
and a mish mash of junk on eBay.
I'd like to use this bike as an all arounder (commute, tour, train).
Thanks in advance.