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    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
    Order the LHT from your local bike shop.
    They can fit you to the bike.
    How in the world do you know that?

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    New to touring and cycling in general. I'm looking for a decent, sub-$700 bike that I can use for commuting and also load up for touring. According to rough measurements it should be a 55-57cm frame (or 17.5-18" if it's a mountain bike frame). If anyone could recommend something it would be appreciated. I would prefer a road frame, but I'm not terribly picky considering my lack of knowledge.

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    People recommend the Windsor Tourist from bikesdirect.com . I have a Novarra Randonee and I like it. You can find the 09 models on sale from REI for $799.
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    Playing with the idea of cycle touring in strange lands? Maybe some inspiration here? www.osmosno.wordpress.com

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    Looking for a cheap bike the "kona smoke" might be of interest to you........... chromoly frame long wheel base and long chainstay....

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    Anyone seen this site? Huge amount of info!!

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    Question:

    Biking shorts and sunglasses: necessary for a tour, or a really nice luxury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by one-headedboy View Post
    Question:

    Biking shorts and sunglasses: necessary for a tour, or a really nice luxury?
    Sunglasses of any sort, I would deem necessary.

    Why?
    1: Protect your eyes. You're out in the middle of the day, ALL day. The UV protection is the biggest reason I can think of.
    2: Protect your eyes, again: Bugs in the eyes is a pain, so is road grime kicked up by passing trucks, or small chunks of whatever flying around in the air on a windy day.

    Shorts? Depending on who you are, are either unwanted, a luxury, or a necessity.
    Some people chafe without them, and thus require them. Others find it more comfortable with them, but don't chafe without them, and then there are people who just don't need them, or want them.
    This one is all dependent upon your needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscuro View Post
    Sunglasses of any sort, I would deem necessary.

    Why?
    1: Protect your eyes. You're out in the middle of the day, ALL day. The UV protection is the biggest reason I can think of.
    2: Protect your eyes, again: Bugs in the eyes is a pain, so is road grime kicked up by passing trucks, or small chunks of whatever flying around in the air on a windy day.

    Shorts? Depending on who you are, are either unwanted, a luxury, or a necessity.
    Some people chafe without them, and thus require them. Others find it more comfortable with them, but don't chafe without them, and then there are people who just don't need them, or want them.
    This one is all dependent upon your needs.

    Personally I hate riding with glasses. I definitely do get the occasional bug in the eye but I don't mind. The biggest problem is the wind. If you don't blink enough you can really dry ur peepers out! My biggest gripe against glasses is that they get all sweaty and fog up.

    I also think that shorts are necessary for any kind of long riding. I also use Body Glide on the delicate bits down there. It prevents chaffing better than chamois buttr I think.

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    This is a great site for newbies (go to the touring section): www.biketoledo.net
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    I would recommend both sunglasses with UV protection and a helmet visor. You're going to be out in an awful lot of sun and there's additional reflection off the road and shiny cars. You don't want to end up with cataracts or macular degeneration down the line.
    http://www.agingeye.net/visionbasics...tandvision.php

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    My ideal touring bicycle:

    -Steel frame that fits right and can hold big tires w/fenders -bombproof 36 spoke wheels -hub dynamo + led lights -linear pull brakes -Schwalbe marathon tires -Brooks B-17 leather saddle -low gears (lowest should be 22 tooth cog up front, 34 tooth cog in the rear) -solid rack (tubus is good) -big handlebar bag -2 bottle cages with stainless steel bottles
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    Quote Originally Posted by gooutside_andpl View Post
    I first toured on a 10-spd road bike, with a day-pack on my handlebars (straps wrapped over the bar, cinched-up in the center so my wheel could turn) that fell against my brake cable. I had to disconnect the front brake while riding and climbing, then - when topping a pass - stop, put the pack on my back, re-connect my front brake and ride down.

    I had a rear rack, where I kept my sleeping bag and tent rolled-up under a foam pad, and bungeed it all together so my wet clothes could dry-out on top.

    Sure, I looked like the Beverly Hillbillies, but I rode all over Idaho and Montana for as long as 3-weeks at a time and fell in love with bicycle touring. I also learned about what to carry, how to organize my stuff, how to plan a trip, how to climb big hills, how to eat on the road, etc.

    Since you can't learn to do something without "doing" it, I say get on whatever you have, jerry-rig something to carry your gear, pick an adventurous route and hit the road. You will learn by doing and have many a tale to tell.

    You've got the rest of your life to select gear. Get touring now and happy trails.


    It's an adventure. Just figure on being self reliant and the rest will fall in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken cummings View Post
    bobarnOO, A cyclocross bike is for cyclocross. It could be used for long touring but it is not designed from the bottom up for that purpose.
    I'm building my first touring bike use a CX bike as the base.

    I do plan plenty of tweaks and upgrades as well as using a trailer over panniers. I'll let you know how it goes.

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    About to go on my first "tour" ride its only gonna be about a 110 mile round trip but its all up hill on way out, i live in idaho so no matter where i go its gonna be up hill. I was wondering if you guys have any suggestions about gears i should run for it. I run 26" wheels current gear set up is 11-32 in rear with a 50-39-28 in front im trying to be kinda in the middle its all up hill one way and its gonna be down hill on way back. I think its gonna be like a 9000ft climb over 25 miles or so of crappy idaho "roads". I pretty much wanted to know if my current set up is ideal for this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizzaly View Post
    About to go on my first "tour" ride its only gonna be about a 110 mile round trip but its all up hill on way out, i live in idaho so no matter where i go its gonna be up hill. I was wondering if you guys have any suggestions about gears i should run for it. I run 26" wheels current gear set up is 11-32 in rear with a 50-39-28 in front im trying to be kinda in the middle its all up hill one way and its gonna be down hill on way back. I think its gonna be like a 9000ft climb over 25 miles or so of crappy idaho "roads". I pretty much wanted to know if my current set up is ideal for this
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    Yeah after i wrote that i kinda started to think that same thing

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    Does anybody tour on one speed bicycles? I am thinking light one speed bikes like the Raleigh One Way for example.

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    Hi Clunkrider, people tour on damn near anything: straight up touring bikes, hardtails, recumbants, unicycles, skateboards and yes there are a few singles out there as well as blind people, young people, middle aged people and the well retired. The trick to touring is to do it. No matter what you bring to the table your experience will be unique and a memorable part of your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
    Well im not sure if the 24s gonna work out unless you know of an easy place to find a top pull front der. thats a 28.6 dia. that can handle the 26t difference mine certinly cannot

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    nevermind found a derailleur

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    Bar-ends v integrated

    I know a lot of good touring bikes use bar-ends for some good reasons (more basic than integrated shifters, so less likely to malfunction and easier to repair if they do, even in Timbuktu).

    However, the convenience of the STI shifters on my road bike makes me a safer rider than in my downtube days, now having shifting and braking *right there* to bail me out in dicey last-second situations.

    I've never ridden bar-ends (yet).
    How do experienced tourers feel about the safety and convenience of use, including braking (especially if no third-world touring is planned)?

    TIA.

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    Clunkerider- I am planning a 300+ mile, 4 day trip on my Schwinn Traveler- fixed-gear. Going to do it in the next couple days. I do my tri's on it and my commuting on the same bike. I have done many long rides between 20-70 miles. Can't imagine what I would do if I had gears

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    amazing thread

    Quote Originally Posted by stokell View Post
    To add to the budget touring bike debate:
    Basically many of these 20-30 year old bikes are similar to a touring bike, except a little less relaxed geometry.


    Don't be put off touring because someone says you don't have the right bike. If your bike can take 2 panniers and 2 water bottles, just do it!
    http://www.bikeforums.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif

    i am a newb to touring, i just got back from a 150m tour with my 2 friends.
    it was all our firsts time. i took my Schwinn Madison and climbed up from half moon bay to merill at uc santa cruz then to big sur. i did it all on a fixed gear and a lot of ambition.

    this thread has helped me a lot im going to post a thread about my experience when i upload some pics.
    thank you for all the advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJgreyhead View Post
    I know a lot of good touring bikes use bar-ends for some good reasons (more basic than integrated shifters, so less likely to malfunction and easier to repair if they do, even in Timbuktu).

    However, the convenience of the STI shifters on my road bike makes me a safer rider than in my downtube days, now having shifting and braking *right there* to bail me out in dicey last-second situations.

    I've never ridden bar-ends (yet).
    How do experienced tourers feel about the safety and convenience of use, including braking (especially if no third-world touring is planned)?

    TIA.
    I have bar-ends on the bike I use for sport riding in the rain. There's no safety issue IMO. At the worst it's very minimal. Even with my brifter bikes, I don't shift while braking. I let off the brakes and spin and downshift when coming to a slow corner. Same thing with the bar-ends. Because I almost always have both hands on the bars, it's safe and you can always brake with the non-shifting hand. A tiny advantage is that you can grab the whole cassette in one go without stepping through it. I shift with the lever pinched between my 4th and 5th fingers.

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