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    New LHT color - dark cherry pearl

    These photos are not very good. I am providing them just so you can see this new color not as works of art. You will get a better idea of what the new LHT color looks like than you can from the Surly website.

    http://www.pbase.com/jblish/surly__lht

    This color is called dark cherry pearl and it has "metallic flakes" in the paint. They shine / sparkle in direct sunlight and the color is not bad even in less bright light. Somewhat characteristically for Surly it is not a traditional bicycle color; it is darker than the red you see on most red bikes.

    The frame shown is a 58. Happy to answer any questions. My sincere thanks to Geno and Ben at One-on-One in Minneapolis for getting me this frame. My understanding is that they are not just waiting on the shelf at your LBS for you to walk in and pick one up - you have to make some effort. Geno and Ben put forth the effort and scored one for me. Thanks, guys.

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    It's a very pretty red!

    I have the sage green LHT.

    I'm getting used to seeing the LHT in other colors now.

    Please post pics when you get it built!
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    That is sooo pretty! Cannot wait to see the pics.

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    Congratulations on your new purchase, and thanks for the pics. I've been dying to see the LHT in the new cherry red and it's every bit as gorgeous as I expected it to be. Nice choice!

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    Get 'em while they last. According to the Surly blog, when they're gone, they're gone. The color has been a PITA for them so there'll only be one production run.

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    Actually, on the surlyblog (see March 06th, 2006) they stated that they will have a second batch, though it will be a lsightly different color.

    "But here is the deal, we've had a hell of a time dialing in the paint on these suckers, so it's likely the next batch or so will be a slightly different color."

    This could mean that it will be a different shade of red?

    Also, that is a goddamn gorgeous bike. I want one.

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    How tall are you that you went with a 58? I'm looking into getting an LHT now but (as are many) am a little clueless about the sizing. I went to the LBS and was able to standover a 58cm CrossCheck so I think I'll probably go with the 58 LHT (their standover meansurements are the same). Any suggestions?

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    I am 5'11" My legs are long for my height. I am of the Grant Petersen / Bridgestone / Rivendell school of thought which essentially says that if you are between sizes you should give serious consideration to the larger size, providing you can be accomodated by the standover height of that frame. I prefer a stretched out position on the bike, even for touring. I can effectively adjust the length of the top tube by altering the stem length. For instance, see how short the stem is on my 59 LeMond Nevada City:

    http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/33866291

    My Romulus is a 59 with no problem and my QuickBeam is a 58. My Kogswell D is a 58 and all these bikes fit me the way I like.

    I do, however, understand your concern. Reading posts on this list suggests that a 58 might be too big for a person of my height. I know the size of the tire can effectively increase the standover height of the bikeas well but I have factored that in - I expect to run Pasela Panaracer 700 x 35 or Schwalbe Marathon Plus in that same size. There may be times when I will have a larger tire on the bike but I do not expect that to cause a problem.

    You can also do the measure your public bone height drill which is explained on the Rivendell site. Your mileage may vary and I am not even getting close to telling you what you should do. You have to decide that. I guess the short answer for me is that I have ridden enough bikes - including a 58 Atlantis (after which the LHT is said to be designed) that I am confident knowing the 58 is the right size for me.

    Not trying to be a smart-ass about it - I just know.

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    Hey - after I posted I noticed you are also in MN. If you want to try the 58 Atlantis go to Hiawatha Cyclery at 4205 54th St in South Minneapolis and ask the owner, Jim Thrill, to let you try his 58 Atlantis. I am sure he will let you. Cheers.

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    Whoah - HOT. It's making me reconsider my decision to not purchase an LHT (I don't really need a new touring bike). Definitely my favorite LHT color so far.

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    I was in the same situation. I had decided NOT to purchase LHT - yet. I figured another year or two, then get one. I have a mountain bike I tour on - don't like the flat bars though and for one or two night jaunts I am content to use a road bike - my Romulus. Then I saw a hint of the dark cherry pearl color on the Surly site and figured, Why Not? So I called my favorite shop and asked them to go for it and decided if they can get one (in that color), I will take it - if they can't, I won't.

    Well obviously they got me one and I am very glad. My wife drove me to pick it up and she liked it so much she paid for it and called it my birthday present. I have a deal with her about the number of bikes I am allowed to have and now I have to sell one but no problem. I have a 59 Romulus that has never been built up or even touched once it was taken out of the box. Not the one I ride - another one. And that is the bike that is going to go and should more than pay for the LHT. No problem - LHT is going to fill a nice spot in the stable. Upper Mid-West Back Road Touring and Get Away Vehicle. I will probably also use it for commuting some of the time. I know I could not have justified / afforded an Atlantis when the Surly is so close to the same thing and I even like this paint / color better than the Atlantis green. I like it that the Surly is $1000 less. Grab one if you can.

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    Hi. Today was actually a better day for pictures (sunnier) and I have added a few that show this new color better than the earlier ones. Here is one:

    http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/57375303

    and there are a few more too all at the same url I posted before.

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    Wow. Cool. It looks a shade or two darker than my Volpe. Very pretty.

    I had my doubts, but the green has grown on me the more I look at it.

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    Is it still powder?

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    I don't actually know whether it is wet paint or powdercoat. I had assumed it was paint because my Kogswell D, which also came from Maxway, is paint but that certainly doesn't mean this would be. Surly is not Kogswell even if the frames come from the same factory and who knows who does the paint or powder - Maxway maybe sends it out for paint / powder.

    Are other Surlys powder? I thought not but I could be mistaken. Powder makes them an even better deal than I had realized if they are.

    The only downside I know is that if you get a big gash in the paint there is no touchup that will even begin to deal with the metal flake in the paint. Just slop some clear on it to prevent rust and keep on pedalin'.

    I have begun to collect likely parts. Sugino XD 46-36-26 square taper crank in a 175 with 113 UN-53 BB. Ultegra STI brifters. Nitto Noodle bars in a 46 cm. with a Nitto silver threadless stem, probably in a 9 cm length. Shimano XT M760 SGS rear der. Honey Brooks B17. Nitto Jaguar 2-bolt seat post. 13 - 34 cassette from Harris Cyclery. Surly Nice racks front and rear in black and I have some newish Ortleib Bike-Packer Plus in red and black for the rear and some old Jandd non-waterproof black panniers for the front. Paul's Neo-Retro cantis for the front and Paul's Touring cantis for the rear, both in silver. Not sure about the front der.

    Any suggestions will be gratefully received. Thanks for your patience in this. I am pretty stoked about it. I tend to ramble and foam at the mouth.

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    I really dunno about the wheels. Maybe a Schmidt generator hub in front with either a Phil Wood or a NOS XTR that Peter White has in back with either Mavic A719 or Velocity Dyad rims in silver - 36 hole front and rear. Any thoughts you want to share?

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    My LBS is ordering me one on Friday. This is the color I've been waiting for, as I'm not a big fan of green, and I absolutely DESPISE blue.
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    The green was powder, I'm pretty sure. One of the advantages of the LHT paint.

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    AFAIK, all of the Surlys (Surlies?) are powder-coated. This is their first flake coating, though (maybe the new Lime Greeen on the KM, too?), so they may have done it differently. Drop 'em a line; they'll tell you. They're very responsive.

    I've got an old LX fder; works great. (I'm running barcons, though, so I'm in friction mode in the front.)

    Wheels--sheesh. Going all fancy on us, eh, D58? I'm running an old Shimano 600/CR18 front and an XT/CR18 rear, both 36h.

    Haven't tried the Schnidt, but a friend has one, and it's awesome. I've got an old Shimano NX30 dynohub on my winter commuter, and it's swell, but the new Shimano dynohub is much better. Either way, the Lumotec lights throw a great beam.

    Mine turned out OK, for a Frankenbike. Shots here: http://beauty.nagog.smasher.net:81/gallery/lht

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    Smasher--

    Your beautiful green build and the pictures I saw of it (and parts list) for the first time maybe a month ago were a large part of what inspired me to get LHT. Then when I realized this color would be available for just a short time...

    Not sure what wheels to get but I need to have something built or build some myself so I figure now is the time to go for the generator hub I have been wanting for 2 years. I don't want to have to even think about the wheels again for 15 - 20,000 miles so good hubs / rims make sense. I don't have anything in 700 just laying around that is heavy duty enough for loaded touring. Just need something I can count on to get me there and back...

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    Get the whole wheel built by Peter White, he does a great job. I've got one on my recumbent. Love it, only problem I've seen is going up steep hills when I drop down to around 4mph, then it doesn't really light too well.
    Run CR-18, Dyad's, or 719's, he'll build up a rear with an older polished XT/XTR hub if you ask. Good luck finding a silver stem. IMHO Sage works best with silver, and that sugino XD-600 crank is just sexy.

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    The XD crank is a good match with the LHT, ins't it?

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    Thanks Mark. As this thing moves on I am more and more sure that it will be a Peter White A719 with the Schmidt generator and probably a Phil Wood rear but the XTR that is NOS that he mentions on his website is a good possibility - can't go wrong either way.

    I like the Sugino XD but I went to LBS and saw LHT (in blue) built up using the new Shimano crank - your choice - either 42-32-22 or 48-36-26. The one I saw was LX but it also comes in XT and XTR. This is the one that has the BB as an included and integral part of the crank and has "external" bearings outside the normal BB area - wider spaced, bigger diameter, single unit, supposedly heavier duty. Anyway I liked the look of that crank and the theory at least of the wider BB, so it might be the Shimano over the XD Sugino, but the Sugino is still a good deal and a nice crank. The XT crank is the most likely now. That might mean getting the XTR rear hub just for an overall Shimanic consistency.

    Money for the build is the issue now. I have a bike I need to sell before I can really afford to complete the LHT. I got the LHT frame because that color was available, not because I was ready, cash-wise, to begin the build. Hope to have it ready to go by June 1.

    The built up bike at LBS had LX front and rear derailleurs and LX hubs on A319 rims and they even had Nitto Noodle bars on it with bar-end shifters. Not bad. Lots of good LBS in Minneapolis who focus on other than just the racing thing.

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    Yes. Even though I am considering a Shimano crank the XD in either 300 (all steel rings) or 600 (two bigger rings are aluminum) is a great deal and a great crank. Comes standard on my Romulus and has proved to be just fine. Looks good, rings are the right size for touring, price is right, less filling.

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    I notice that there are some sizes of LHT frames listed as "cherry red" on AEBike, but there's no photo. Anyone know if these are the original black cherry pearl color, or a new shade of red?

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