Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Touring Have a dream to ride a bike across your state, across the country, or around the world? Self-contained or fully supported? Trade ideas, adventures, and more in our bicycle touring forum.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-28-06, 01:34 AM   #1
mycoatl
Sasquatch Crossing
Thread Starter
 
mycoatl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Portlandia
Bikes:
Posts: 414
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
New bike--help me identify it!

I'm totally jazzed--just picked up a used touring bike on Craigslist for $100! It may be the best deal I've ever found, but I need your help identifying the frame manufacturer. Even if I end up ditching the frame, I got crazy value on the components alone and everything is in good shape and low miles.

The bike is a lugged steel frame branded as a "Backroads Chimayo." From what I can tell, I think it's an older custom bike from Backroads tours. They have their own bikes for the tours they run and order them from various manufacturers. So, that's what I'm looking for--the original manufacturer who made the frame for Backroads. The tubing says Tange double-butted chro-moly, but that's all it says. I think the components were put on later since they don't match the vintage of a lugged steel frame. Please let me know if you have any info on this bike.

Here's what it's sporting:

Deore LX FD
Deore LX RD
Deore LX crankset w/ 48/36/24
Shimano 7-sp cassette 12-28
Shimano "light duty" bar end shifters
Shimano 105 brake levers
Shimano short reach caliper brakes
sakae modolo handlebars
sakae seatpost
avocet touring saddle
Deore LX hubs
Arraya 700c rims

P.S. I've tried to attach pics of it but am having a difficult time. It's probably due to the server change this weekend. I'll try to post pics again later, but any suggestions would be appreciated.
mycoatl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-06, 01:42 PM   #2
mycoatl
Sasquatch Crossing
Thread Starter
 
mycoatl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Portlandia
Bikes:
Posts: 414
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Looks like the bugs are worked out. Here are some pics of my new ride. Also, I noticed an embossed "C" on the inside of the rear drop outs. Any thoughts?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Chimayo 002.jpg (32.5 KB, 175 views)
File Type: jpg Chimayo 003.jpg (32.0 KB, 121 views)
File Type: jpg Chimayo 005.jpg (18.7 KB, 85 views)
mycoatl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-06, 01:50 PM   #3
bikerlee
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 49
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mycoatl
I'm totally jazzed--just picked up a used touring bike on Craigslist for $100! It may be the best deal I've ever found, but I need your help identifying the frame manufacturer. Even if I end up ditching the frame, I got crazy value on the components alone and everything is in good shape and low miles.

The bike is a lugged steel frame branded as a "Backroads Chimayo." From what I can tell, I think it's an older custom bike from Backroads tours. They have their own bikes for the tours they run and order them from various manufacturers. So, that's what I'm looking for--the original manufacturer who made the frame for Backroads. The tubing says Tange double-butted chro-moly, but that's all it says. I think the components were put on later since they don't match the vintage of a lugged steel frame. Please let me know if you have any info on this bike.

Here's what it's sporting:

Deore LX FD
Deore LX RD
Deore LX crankset w/ 48/36/24
Shimano 7-sp cassette 12-28
Shimano "light duty" bar end shifters
Shimano 105 brake levers
Shimano short reach caliper brakes
sakae modolo handlebars
sakae seatpost
avocet touring saddle
Deore LX hubs
Arraya 700c rims

P.S. I've tried to attach pics of it but am having a difficult time. It's probably due to the server change this weekend. I'll try to post pics again later, but any suggestions would be appreciated.
Hi,
I bought a similiar Backroads touring bicycle from Backroads around 1992-1993.
It was a cheap frame loaded with heavy components. Your component mix looks better, the frame similiar.
I would guess it weights around 29-30 pounds. Components are probably worth much more than the frame.
Wehen I tried to sell the Backroads, couldn't even get any offers when advertised at $100.
Just my opinion,
Lee
bikerlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-06, 02:40 PM   #4
mycoatl
Sasquatch Crossing
Thread Starter
 
mycoatl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Portlandia
Bikes:
Posts: 414
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Lee, thanks for confirming that it's similar to one you bought from Backroads.

When I bought the bike I figured it was a good deal even if I stripped everything off the frame and put the components on something else. A little more research has led me to believe the frame could be an early-80s Centurian, possibly a Pro Tour or a Comp model. The serial number format on the BB shell matches Centurians from that era and the lugs are the same. Not exactly a smoking gun, but helpful information as I decide whether to rebuild on the same frame when I tear the bike down to clean and lube everything. I'm just going to ride it for a week or so until I decide what to do. Having fun on it, though...
mycoatl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-06, 08:00 AM   #5
ellenDSD
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 467
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
It's very pretty whatever it is. Heck, if you like it and it's comfy, you're all set
ellenDSD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-06, 08:16 PM   #6
tacomee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 1,294
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Ahh, a new Novrara Randonee costs $950 and weights around.....29 pounds! (size 59cm with rear stock rack on) I'm betting a Trek 520 is about the same.

What you have there is a mighty fine touring bike for 10% of the cost of a new one. I'd gladly drive 3 hours to Portland and give you back your $100, if you still thing the bike is too heavy.
tacomee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-06, 11:40 AM   #7
mycoatl
Sasquatch Crossing
Thread Starter
 
mycoatl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Portlandia
Bikes:
Posts: 414
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks tacomee, but it's not too heavy for me so I'll be keeping it. It's funny you mention the Randonee--I was seriously contemplating buying one with my dividend and 20% off coupon, but right after I decided it wasn't feasible this year (I'm a law student, so $ is tight), I saw this beast on CL and made the call.

I've been cleaning the bike and really dig it. The only items that shows any wear are the middle chainring and the brake pads. I'm just going to get it all tuned up and clean, true the wheels and throw new rubber on, replace the stem to lower and extend the bars a little, new bar tape, and new brake pads. Probably another hundred or so into the bike for all that and it'll be ready to tour.

One question, though. I'm trying to decide between replacing the quill stem with another quill stem or a threaded to threadless adapter. Any thoughts?
mycoatl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-06, 07:06 PM   #8
tacomee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 1,294
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
First off, I'm a big fan of *old school* stuff. I like friction shifting, 21 gears of less, real leather saddles.....but I do believe that threadless headsets are much better than the old kind. Buying a new steel fork/headset/stem is cheap ($100 or so?) but it's a worthwhile upgrade. Touring bikes, because of the loads carried on the frount rack, need a good headset.

With that said, If I was in your shoes, I'd be keeping the threaded one, looking for a cheap used quill stem and saving the money. It will still work.

Good luck with the new bike and remember if there is trouble with it, you can fix it way cheaper than a new bike.
tacomee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-06, 07:40 PM   #9
halfspeed
Senior Member
 
halfspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: SE Minnesota
Bikes: are better than yours.
Posts: 12,276
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mycoatl
Thanks tacomee, but it's not too heavy for me so I'll be keeping it. It's funny you mention the Randonee--I was seriously contemplating buying one with my dividend and 20% off coupon, but right after I decided it wasn't feasible this year (I'm a law student, so $ is tight), I saw this beast on CL and made the call.

I've been cleaning the bike and really dig it. The only items that shows any wear are the middle chainring and the brake pads. I'm just going to get it all tuned up and clean, true the wheels and throw new rubber on, replace the stem to lower and extend the bars a little, new bar tape, and new brake pads. Probably another hundred or so into the bike for all that and it'll be ready to tour.

One question, though. I'm trying to decide between replacing the quill stem with another quill stem or a threaded to threadless adapter. Any thoughts?
There's no point in going to threadless. Threadless was invented to make things more convenient for manufacturers. It just so happens to be marginally lighter and stiffer as well. On the other hand, unless you've got a lot of uncut steerer, threadless gives you a lot less height adjustment. On the gripping hand, you only need an allen wrench to adjust the bearing preload.

All in all, it's a bunch of minor differences that usually don't justify the expense to "upgrade" in either direction.

In fact, most of the differences that get hotly debated here are trivial and most of the "facts" used in the arguments are suspect at best.
halfspeed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-06, 10:24 PM   #10
cyccommute 
Mad bike riding scientist
 
cyccommute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Bikes: Some silver ones, a black one, a red one, an orange one and a couple of titanium ones
Posts: 18,056
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 226 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by halfspeed
There's no point in going to threadless. Threadless was invented to make things more convenient for manufacturers. It just so happens to be marginally lighter and stiffer as well. On the other hand, unless you've got a lot of uncut steerer, threadless gives you a lot less height adjustment. On the gripping hand, you only need an allen wrench to adjust the bearing preload.

All in all, it's a bunch of minor differences that usually don't justify the expense to "upgrade" in either direction.

In fact, most of the differences that get hotly debated here are trivial and most of the "facts" used in the arguments are suspect at best.
While I wouldn't go to a threadless fork unless the original fork is jones, the threadless adapter makes sense if you are in need of adjusting the reach or height of the stem. Looking at the stem that is on the bike, it's rather high. The threadless adapter lets you experiment with lots of stems in various reaches and angles. And, let's face it, there are far more stems available in 1 1/8" then there are quill stems available. And the fact that most of them have two bolt face plates makes them easy to change.

Get one and experiment (keep the threaded fork, however...for now ).
__________________
Stuart Black
New! Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
New! Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Days of Wineless Roads. Bed and Breakfasting along the KATY
Twisting Down the Alley. Misadventures in tornado alley.
An Good Ol' Fashion Appalachian Butt Whoopin'.
cyccommute is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:32 AM.