Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Touring Have a dream to ride a bike across your state, across the country, or around the world? Self-contained or fully supported? Trade ideas, adventures, and more in our bicycle touring forum.

View Poll Results: Do you bring a helmet on tour?
I always bring and wear a helmet when riding on tour. 115 70.99%
I always bring, but don't always wear, a helmet when riding on tour. 25 15.43%
I don't always bring a helmet on tour. 4 2.47%
I never bring a helmet on tour. 18 11.11%
Voters: 162. You may not vote on this poll

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-17-06, 06:29 PM   #1
tofubicycle
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Poll: Do you wear a helmet on tour?

We were having the Great Helmet Debate again at the bike shop the other day and someone mentioned that they where a helemet except when touring. Over the years, I myself have worn, and foregone, a helmet on a various bike rides but have always worn one when touring. I'm curious how many people tour with a helmet, how many don't and how many bring one but don't always wear it.

Please limit your participation in this thread and this poll to whether or not you wear a helmet. Please, no judging or criticizing of others for wearing or not wearing helmets. I'd like to get the most accurate response from people and I think assuring folks that there will be no lectures on safety will help.

Thanks!
tofubicycle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-06, 10:01 PM   #2
Shemp
Senior Member
 
Shemp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Bikes: Cannondale T2000, Gary Fisher Sugar2, Trek Madone 5.2SL
Posts: 858
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I said always, but on an oppressive climb in oppressive heat in the middle of nowhere, I'll ditch the helmet for the ride up.
Shemp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-06, 10:12 PM   #3
BigGuy
Touring senior
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Didsbury, Alberta, Canada - near Calgary
Bikes: Cannondale touring bike
Posts: 117
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Won't leave home without it.
BigGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-06, 10:54 PM   #4
Sebach
Senior Member
 
Sebach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Bikes: Surly Long Haul Trucker
Posts: 325
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
When I spend a full day riding in the heat, I really appreciate my 'venty' helmet because it keeps most of the sun off my skull and out of my eyes while still allowing lots of wind to cool my skull. But because of the big front vents, some light does get through in certain spots more than others and gives me a bit of a stripy tan across my upper forehead.
Sebach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-06, 11:47 PM   #5
Machka 
Long Distance Cyclist
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: I ride where the thylacine roamed!
Bikes: Lots
Posts: 45,766
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 89 Post(s)
I always wear a helmet ... tour or no tour.

BTW - it is illegal in some countries (i.e. Australia) to ride without a helmet.
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 12:08 AM   #6
dreamy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Oz
Bikes:
Posts: 136
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Machka

BTW - it is illegal in some countries (i.e. Australia) to ride without a helmet.
I got really annoyed when it became law here and thought it would be a major hassle, however am now so used to riding with one that I feel naked without it, and would wear one anywhere....

And there is no beating around the bush and warnings from the cops here....("Please put your helmet on Sir") - it's an instant fine.
dreamy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 12:18 AM   #7
Machka 
Long Distance Cyclist
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: I ride where the thylacine roamed!
Bikes: Lots
Posts: 45,766
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 89 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamy
I got really annoyed when it became law here and thought it would be a major hassle, however am now so used to riding with one that I feel naked without it, and would wear one anywhere....

And there is no beating around the bush and warnings from the cops here....("Please put your helmet on Sir") - it's an instant fine.

EVERYONE over there kept reminding me about that "instant fine" thing!

It was OK with me too because I always wear my helmet anyway ... but my riding partner over there wasn't used to wearing a helmet on a regular basis, and kept heading off to make quick trips into town to pick up a few grocery items or something without his helmet ... and then turning around at the edge of camp to get it, just in case.
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 03:46 AM   #8
BorisBob
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bulgaria
Bikes: mountain bike
Posts: 55
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
We say if there is something into the head, it is necessary to wear it … I have one, but I do not use it
BorisBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 07:35 AM   #9
Monoborracho
Senior Member
 
Monoborracho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Deep In The Heart
Bikes: Seven Ti Tandem, Blue T12 tri bike, 92 Paramount, 93 Schwinn Mesa MTB, Soma Saga
Posts: 2,607
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
I work in the oil and gas industry, and accidents are like blowouts. No one wakes up thinking they are going to have one that day.

Yesterday it was 100+ in my part of Texas when I headed out, but I still kept it on for my 25 mile evening ride on the roads. I'm looking for a more venty model, maybe even a Giro Atmos, to replace the one I have.

I find the best coolant is to wear a cool max type of "doo rag" under the helmet, and periodically take it off, pour a little water on it, and put it back on.

You only wear armor if you have something to protect. Think about it.
Monoborracho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 08:37 AM   #10
Sigurdd50
Papa Wheelie
 
Sigurdd50's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Madison, Wi
Bikes: Jamis Aurora '02; Takara Medalist (650B)
Posts: 1,472
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
said always, but on an oppressive climb in oppressive heat in the middle of nowhere, I'll ditch the helmet for the ride up.
Yeah, I notice that whenever I'm riding up hill, especially a steep oppressive climb, there is never any car traffic or other riders or rodents or deer crossing the road or pot holes or cracks in the pavement or errant rocks or debris or sand or log trucks.

NOt a judgment or critcism (just being witty)... personally, I feel that a situation where I am mentally and physically stressed (like uphills) is the type of situation where I am most likely to have an error in judgment and take a spill -- or someone else around me would cause a wreck
Sigurdd50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 08:47 AM   #11
stokell
Senior Member
 
stokell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: On the Road
Bikes: Custom built tourer, custom electric bike, beaters everywhere
Posts: 1,260
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If I may mount the soapbox and state:

"Everyone should wear a helmet, no one plans to have an accident. That's why we call them accidents and not 'on purposes'.

In a country where we all pay for each others health care (I'm referring to Canada here), I believe they should be mandatory. If you want to scrabble your brain and pay for your own long term care that's great. As long as I'm paying for your care, I'll tell you to wear the damn helmet."


Stokell has stepped down from the soapbox and left the building.
stokell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 08:58 AM   #12
chipcom 
Infamous Member
 
chipcom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ohio
Bikes: Surly Big Dummy, Fuji World, 80ish Bianchi
Posts: 24,366
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If the law requires it, I wear one. If I feel the situation is riskier than normal (riding in the snow is one example), I wear one - the rest of the time, a ball cap suits me fine. Been helmetless for over 40 years, not a veg, not an organ donor, still have a pretty (ugly) face.
__________________
"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
chipcom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 09:12 AM   #13
tofubicycle
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by stokell
If I may mount the soapbox and state:

"Everyone should wear a helmet, no one plans to have an accident. That's why we call them accidents and not 'on purposes'.

In a country where we all pay for each others health care (I'm referring to Canada here), I believe they should be mandatory. If you want to scrabble your brain and pay for your own long term care that's great. As long as I'm paying for your care, I'll tell you to wear the damn helmet."


Stokell has stepped down from the soapbox and left the building.
Just a reminder that I want people to be completely honest about thier helmet use habits here and that I think the best way to ensure this level of honesty is if people know that there won't be any soapboxing about why people should wear helmets, or shouldn't have to wear helmets.

I absolutely respect your opinion but would appreciate, as mentioned in the parent thread, if people just limited thier participation to this thread to the poll itself.
tofubicycle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 09:14 AM   #14
howsteepisit
Senior Member
 
howsteepisit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Eugene, OR
Bikes: Mecian
Posts: 3,638
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
I think that when you are crawling up a hill, on a loaded bike you are really at greater risk of crashing. generally winded goiing slow and perhaps weaving a bit your balance is not the best it ever is. And I read years ago that its not the forward speed that creates the greatest risk for head injusy but the distance you head is above the ground. the height that your head is in a bicycle is high enough for a fall to kill you. Hence I almost always wear a helmet.
howsteepisit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 12:13 PM   #15
Dahon.Steve
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: New Jersey
Bikes:
Posts: 6,829
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monoborracho
I'm looking for a more venty model, maybe even a Giro Atmos, to replace the one I have.
.
Get a white helmet. Whatever you do, don't buy a black Atmos!
Dahon.Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 12:44 PM   #16
AndrewP
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Montreal
Bikes: Peugeot Hybrid, Minelli Hybrid
Posts: 6,521
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BorisBob
I have one, but I do not use it
Helmet or head or both?
AndrewP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 12:46 PM   #17
cyclezealot
Senior Member
 
cyclezealot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Fallbrook,Calif./Palau del Vidre, France
Bikes: Klein QP, Fuji touring, Surly Cross Check, BCH City bike
Posts: 13,166
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
I wear my helmet even after adjusting my brakes, followed up by a ride around the block in order to check out my work.
cyclezealot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 12:51 PM   #18
chipcom 
Infamous Member
 
chipcom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ohio
Bikes: Surly Big Dummy, Fuji World, 80ish Bianchi
Posts: 24,366
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclezealot
I wear my helmet even after adjusting my brakes, followed up by a ride around the block in order to check out my work.
After wrenching on my bike I wear full body armour for the test ride...not to mention getting all my insurance paperwork, will, etc. in order.
__________________
"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
chipcom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 02:48 PM   #19
cyclezealot
Senior Member
 
cyclezealot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Fallbrook,Calif./Palau del Vidre, France
Bikes: Klein QP, Fuji touring, Surly Cross Check, BCH City bike
Posts: 13,166
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
chips. can't say i wear my helmet while adjusting my brakes. maybe steel meshed gloves would be a good idea. know of someone who lost a tip of his finger to it's chainrings. ah. my ride around the block is usually a mile or two. maybe didn't wear a helmet when the ride was 100 feet.
cyclezealot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 02:58 PM   #20
acantor
Macro Geek
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Bikes: True North tourer (www.truenorthcycles.com), 2004; Miyata 1000, 1985
Posts: 1,244
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclezealot
I wear my helmet even after adjusting my brakes, followed up by a ride around the block in order to check out my work.
Wearing a helmet after adjusting my brakes would have been smart thing for me to have done way back when. In the year 16 B.H. (16 years before I started wearing a helmet), I had the nastiest crash of my life after "fixing" my brakes. I tested my new skill by bombing down a hill, and discovered that I had done a much better job adjusting the front than the back brake. I went over the handlebars and hit the concrete hard. The bicycle crashed on my back. My hands and arms were badly scraped. My head was fine, but it was only luck that my noggin survived!

In retrospect, it's amazing that I rode another 16 years before getting a helmet. On the other hand, I cannot remember seeing anyone wearing a bicycle helmet prior to 1985.
acantor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 04:18 PM   #21
Thrifty1
Senior Member
 
Thrifty1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: OK
Bikes:
Posts: 780
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Helmets are mandatory on most (if not all) supported tours.
Thrifty1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 05:09 PM   #22
roadfix
hello
 
roadfix's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Bikes:
Posts: 18,557
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclezealot
know of someone who lost a tip of his finger to it's chainrings.
damn, them fixed gear bikes...

Last edited by roadfix; 04-18-06 at 05:31 PM.
roadfix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 05:44 PM   #23
Tom Stormcrowe
Out fishing with Annie on his lap, a cigar in one hand and a ginger ale in the other, watching the sunset.
 
Tom Stormcrowe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: South Florida
Bikes: Techna Wheelchair and a Sun EZ 3 Recumbent Trike
Posts: 16,120
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I've seen a helmet after it hit the road, and was glad it had been surrounding my skull! I wear a helmet on the local bike path even!
__________________
. “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”- Fredrick Nietzsche

"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." - Immanuel Kant
Tom Stormcrowe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 08:09 PM   #24
Blackberry
In Memory of One Cool Cat
 
Blackberry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Bikes: Lemond Victoire, Cannondale.Mountain Bike, two 1980s lugged steel Treks, ancient 1980-something Giant mountain bike converted into a slick tired commuter with mustache handlebars, 1960-something Raleigh Sports
Posts: 2,722
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shemp
I said always, but on an oppressive climb in oppressive heat in the middle of nowhere, I'll ditch the helmet for the ride up.
I was doing that too a couple of years ago. Then I decided, what the hell? Why where the helmet at all? So that's what I did for a few days. But then I realized I'd feel like a real ass if I died in a collision with my helmet strapped to my rear rack, so I've been wearing it ever since. Truth to tell, the tour was in the UK, where a fair number (but less than half of the people) weren't wearing helmets at all. I think I let the peer group subtly influence my thinking. Henceforth, the helmet stays on.
__________________
Dead last finish is better than did not finish and infinitely better than did not start.
Blackberry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-06, 08:51 PM   #25
Shemp
Senior Member
 
Shemp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Bikes: Cannondale T2000, Gary Fisher Sugar2, Trek Madone 5.2SL
Posts: 858
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurdd50
Yeah, I notice that whenever I'm riding up hill, especially a steep oppressive climb, there is never any car traffic or other riders or rodents or deer crossing the road or pot holes or cracks in the pavement or errant rocks or debris or sand or log trucks.

NOt a judgment or critcism (just being witty)... personally, I feel that a situation where I am mentally and physically stressed (like uphills) is the type of situation where I am most likely to have an error in judgment and take a spill -- or someone else around me would cause a wreck
Which is why I said in the middle of nowhere. I'm thinking of between Nucla and Gateway Colorado on a Divide Road going up Columbine Pass and west of Gateway, CO heading up the LaSals (in July no less). When climbing at single digit speeds, I'm confident I can safely avoid any rascally squirrels, deer or potholes. If I can't avoid a squirrel or pothole at 5mph, you're free to confiscate my bicycle.
Shemp is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:00 PM.