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Old 04-21-06, 06:21 PM   #1
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Tent for touring?

I was going to buy the REI quarter dome UL tent, it was on sale for $140 till yesterday but I procrastinated and now it's $209. I'm trying to find a tent under 4-5lbs. that is big enough for someone (me) that's 4ft 30 inches (6'6 for those who are mathematically challenged), and I'd like to spend $150 or less. OH yeah....I have a Coleman tent now that meets all of the above qualifications, but it is soooooo not waterproof (and it might weigh a little more that 5 lbs, not sure though).

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Old 04-21-06, 06:59 PM   #2
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Check out the REI Camp Dome tent - only $99. http://www.rei.com/product/47975297.htm

Sure, it's a little heaver but it is a nice tent and it's inexpensive.
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Go to your nearest sporting goods store, and get waterproofing spray. That is all you need.
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When you were at REI, did you look at the Half Dome? I have the older version, and I love it. Plenty big for two, dual vestibules, and you can use the fly with just the footprint.
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http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/sto...feat=ssdpa1096

I am 2 inches shorter than you so it might be a bit short, and I will admit that this tent is a bit claustrophobic. It is light, packs small, and doesn't leak (though I haven't experienced rain with it, just testing it with the garden hose).
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Wow, those LL Bean tents are 8 feet long inside! Probem solved.
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Michigander- Thanks for the idea of waterproofing spray. So...that stuff really does work? It seems so simple a solution that I have a hard time believing that it'll actually works.
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Try to remember the see how short the poles break down to. For me in touring, its not just the weight, but also how much space it takes up on the bike.
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Michigander- Thanks for the idea of waterproofing spray. So...that stuff really does work? It seems so simple a solution that I have a hard time believing that it'll actually works.
It does work but it add some weight to the fabric... I'm not sure how long it lasts but last summer I sprayed my old tent in the middle of my bike tour because of leaks and used it for another 2 weeks without problems.
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Old 04-22-06, 07:46 PM   #11
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Michigander etal: We saw a 100 buck Eureka 1 man at MC sporting goods this week. This is a local chain which grew nationwide. MC originally meant Michigan Clothiers, IIRC. Probably made in China., Basic side-entry, sort of a rainfly slung over a mosqito net coffin. Not much of an entertainment shelter, just portable, personal space. George in Grand Rapids
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Michigander- Thanks for the idea of waterproofing spray. So...that stuff really does work? It seems so simple a solution that I have a hard time believing that it'll actually works.

scotchguard type waterproof spays may or may not solve, or even reduce, your water leakage problem. first, you need to identify where and how the water is coming in.

most common scenarios:
- seams on rainfly are not taped, allowing water to enter through the needle holes and aided by capillary action of the thread. water drips onto the top of the tent. solution: seam seal all seams on fly.

- water is entering through the "waterproof" floor. generally same reason and solution as above, seams have no taping, or are inadequately or faultily taped. seam seal all seams. occasionally, the waterproofing on the fabric of the floor has worn through, or you've got a small hole in the floor. a small hole can be easily fixed with a waterproof patch. if the waterproof coating has worn off, there are coatings you can apply. in my experience, they are problematic in applying and don't last long at all. (however, i haven't used the nikwax one yet)

- poor rainfly coverage. the rainfly doesn't extend far enough to prevent rain from splashing upwards when it hits the ground around the perimeter of the tent. rain splashes higher than the level of the tub-style floor, onto the breathable tent fabric. there's not much you can do about this one, unless you've got a sewing machine and are ready for a project. if not, then some scotchguard type spray applied may help. apply only say about 6" or so. you don't want to waterproof the whole of the breathable fabric of the inner tent, because you'll get even more condensation.

of the various seam sealers i've used, McNett Seam Grip Seam Sealer has been the most tenacious and long lasting. it's not as easy to apply as some and takes a long time to cure. also, it helps if you use a little talcum powder on it after it's cured because it can be a little tacky. the cheap types of seam sealers sold at most discount stores will start pealing almost immediately. nikwax products are also quite good, but for seams, seam grip is unsurpassed.
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I have the Eureka backcountry II about $99.00. I'ves used it on two extended tours and I totally love it. Big enough for one and gear and also super easy to set-up.
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I'd like to o add one point to philso's excellent commentary.

If your tent is old, like mine, the fabri can loose its waterproofness. The chemical water reppelent washed away, micro-holes developped, etc. If this is the case, a silicone based tent sealant should help.
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During our last 2 weeks trip, we used an Eureka TunnelVision... almost a palace... It was so huge we could fit both bikes in the tent and still have plenty of space to cook. But it was sooo heavey... 20-25 lbs. Next time we'll use a North Face - Moraine 33... Much lighter.
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My touring tent is extremely spacious and yet extremely light. It easily holds my bicycle and all my gear and yet weights less than an ounce. The name on it is "Visa".
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Check out Go-Lite. http://www.golite.com/products/prodlist.asp?category=9

Lots and lots of superb options at around the 200 dollar mark.

The brand is pretty big in the Adventure Racing and Fast-packing world, and for good reason.
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Old 04-25-06, 04:47 PM   #18
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Black Diamond tents

Hi,

I strongly recommend the "Lighthouse" and "Firstlight" Black Diamond tents --- they're pretty much the lightest-weight 2-person freestanding tents on the market today. The Firstlight is just 2lbs 9oz. and 27 sq. ft. The Lighthouse is 3lbs. and 31 sq. ft. They are single wall tents. (Note: if you use them where it is both very cold at night, and also humid, you will get some condensation inside the tent from your own moisture.)

http://www.backcountry.com/store/BLD...-3-Season.html
http://www.backcountry.com/store/BLD...-3-Season.html

The downside is price --- $300 and $360 retail, respectively. I would recommend trying to get them on the cheap, on EBay......

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http://www.campmor.com/ Check out all of their tents, which are priced really well and their customer service is great.

I have had a number of tents and for the money my Sierra Designs Clip Flashlite 2 CD is lite, easy to pitch though not free standing, has held up under 80 mph sustained winds high in the Sierra's with the fly sounding like a flag out your car window at 70+mph. It withstood torrential thunderstorms for a week with heavy wind and rain in the open after Hurricane Charley in S. Florida (actually pitched on a dock and I had to use nails as stakes). You can also use just the footprint and rainfly for a very light weight tarp with floor, which cuts it down to around 3 lbs. On top of it all it is quite inexpensive and would handle your large size with ease. You sleep with your head at the door and two men fit in it easily though snug.

REI stuff is very good and there are any number of other tent manufacturers that offer a great product for the money - Eureka is one. I have two of their mountain tents which have really seen some punishment over the years and held up great. You can also go the other extreme and spend well over $ 650.00 US for some more exotic makes that are super durable.
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I went with this one:
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/st...berId=12500226
Eureka Pinacle Pass 2 XTA....it's inexpensive ($119, after rebate)...and very good quality...ordered it from Campmor on Sunday....it arrived the following Wednesday....can't wait to use it!
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I went with this one:
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/st...berId=12500226
Eureka Pinacle Pass 2 XTA....it's inexpensive ($119, after rebate)...and very good quality...ordered it from Campmor on Sunday....it arrived the following Wednesday....can't wait to use it!
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I'd thought about that same model. We have a Eureka Mountainpass 4XT that's wonderful, but a bit heavy for touring. It's performed admirably in some bad weather, but this tent would drop over 3 pounds for us. The question is, is dropping 3.5 pounds between two riders worth the loss of interior storage space on a bad weather day....
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I went with the "2 XTA" for just me. While the literature says 2-peson, 2 people in this tent would be tight. If my wife were to join me I would go for the "3 XTA" version. I bought the Eureka because the cost was right and because I've had a Eureka Space II family tent for 22 years we used for family vacations. Twice we sent it to Eureka to have door zippers replaced (the tent was used quite frequently for lots of trips) at no cost other than shipping it to them.
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Those for whom money is no object and quality paramount may be interested in the Hilleberg NALLO 3 Person on Ebay right now.
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My touring tent is extremely spacious and yet extremely light. It easily holds my bicycle and all my gear and yet weights less than an ounce. The name on it is "Visa".
I haven't toured yet but my wife likes this kind of tent. Maybe one day I can talk her into trying a fully-loaded tour.
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I'm all about kelty when it comes to normal (non-hyper lightweight). I use the Kelty Riverbend 2. Had it for 5 years and it is still in perfect condition. Never had a problem with it.
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