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    Brooks Saddle Minutiae

    While I'm waiting for my bike to be delivered, I'm trying to decide which Brooks to get - either the B17, the B17 Champion Special, or the Champion Flyer. I'll be riding over smooth and rough pavement, and sometimes dirt trails. The main negative point about the Flyer, according to Bill from Wallingford is the difficulty mounting saddlebags. Is the Champion Special much more difficult to break in than the regular B17? Will I truly notice any difference with the Flyer? I'll probably be "going light" over most bumps, anyway. What do y'all think?

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    My fave is the Champion Special.

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    Although I'm quite happy with my B-17s comfort I was disappointed that my Topeak Survival seatbag wouldn't fit on the rails. The plastic mounting clip is too small for the wide rails on my saddle.

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    I like the aged 1-year B17: small brads, nice color ages well . . .

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    The choice is simply: springs or no.
    Heavier people will notice the comfort difference afforded by springs more than lighter riders. I am a Clydesdale at 225. I will always opt for springs. I use B-67's. I would have gone with the Flyer but they are too narrow for my sit bones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcm
    The choice is simply: springs or no.
    Heavier people will notice the comfort difference afforded by springs more than lighter riders. I am a Clydesdale at 225. I will always opt for springs. I use B-67's. I would have gone with the Flyer but they are too narrow for my sit bones.
    Thanks for simplifying everything. I ususally hover between 170 - 175 lbs. I think I'll opt for the B17 - heck it's supposed to be great for everything.

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    There's no 'difficulty' mounting saddlebags unless you convince yourself you need a bigadze barley or carridice sticking out under your rump on a special rack, instead of a normal touring setup of panniers on a rack with a more traditionally sized seatbag reserved for toolkit, tubes, etc...

    the Champion Flyer is like sitting on a Barcolounger while touring- even over cobble and riffraff and gravel truck roads.

    both sprung and unsprung Brooks saddles are comfortable to me over century distances, but i've got a Champion flyer on my heavy touring rig and a B-17 on my rando distance, rackless bike.
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    I'm between 165 to 170 pounds on average and I use the Champion Flyer. Buy what you *want to like* and if it doesn't work out, send it back to Wallingford for an exchange...or something. FWIW, I also have/had a few B17s, a B17N and a Team Professional.


    Quote Originally Posted by wintermute
    Thanks for simplifying everything. I ususally hover between 170 - 175 lbs. I think I'll opt for the B17 - heck it's supposed to be great for everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aware View Post
    Although I'm quite happy with my B-17s comfort I was disappointed that my Topeak Survival seatbag wouldn't fit on the rails. The plastic mounting clip is too small for the wide rails on my saddle.
    I just discovered this myself. I really only wanted the bag for very long day rides, particularity steep mountain passes when I'll detach rear rack altogether for the day. Anyway, I was able to rig the bag with some zip ties & it seems to remain secure. I just didn't feel like returning the damn thing & seeking out a new bag.

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