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    Surly CrossCheck vs REI Nav. vs Windsor

    Ok, those are my final choices. I canceled my Trek 520 order, the more I thought about it the more I couldnt justify paying that much when I can use the extra money to add on nicer components.

    I've narrowed it down to these 3 options. I am placing the order on Wednesday and wanted any last ditch effort opinions by the good people in this forum.

    I can only find the REI and Windsor in a 58cm frame, which kind of has me worried because even though it looks like it might fit, I really dont want to go through the hastle of shipping it back. I am 6'2 and am always concerned when purchasing online, you just never know how a certain bike might fit differently.

    So, any advice is welcomed!

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    Get a bike that fits. I know somebody with the randonee and it has performed very well, very impressive for the money, especially if you can wait for one of their 20% coupons. In the end though, you really need to test ride it, and not compromise on sizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sccr2337
    I am 6'2 and am always concerned when purchasing online, you just never know how a certain bike might fit differently.

    So, any advice is welcomed!
    I'm 6'2" and I have a size 61 Bianchi Strada. Seems like a good fit.

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    I have a CrossCheck (great bike!). At 6' I traditionally have ridden 58cm bikes, but my CrossCheck is a 56cm frame and fits just right. The LBS told me it's because the CrossCheck is a cyclocross bike and has a higher bottom bracket clearance. You may want to take that into consideration if you go with the Surly...
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    I still have one day to decide. But I think I'm going with the Cross-Check.

    Has anybody done a lot of loaded touring on the Cross-Check before?

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    I haven't but I've heard of those who have. It's a really good all-around bike. I have a rear rack and use an Arkel Bug bag and a rack pack. Sometimes I've had some pretty good weight in the Bug bag and the bike seems as stable as can be. I'm looking at some Arkel XM-45s for some easy touring and have no doubt my CrossCheck will handle it just fine...
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    I bought the windsor a few weeks ago. Seriously, it's the best deal you will find. Definitely a better value that the others.


    btw: I'm 6ft 1inch and it fits me fine. (58cm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT52
    I haven't but I've heard of those who have. It's a really good all-around bike. I have a rear rack and use an Arkel Bug bag and a rack pack. Sometimes I've had some pretty good weight in the Bug bag and the bike seems as stable as can be. I'm looking at some Arkel XM-45s for some easy touring and have no doubt my CrossCheck will handle it just fine...
    Thats good news. I guess I'll have to add some braze-ons and a front rack. I'd take it to the LBS, as I dont trust myself to make that sort of modification. That shouldnt be a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by subigo
    I bought the windsor a few weeks ago. Seriously, it's the best deal you will find. Definitely a better value that the others.


    btw: I'm 6ft 1inch and it fits me fine. (58cm)
    I'm 6'2 and a 34 inseam. I'd probably go with the windsor if I could find one that is a 60cm, but they jump from 58 to 64. My buddy, who is a tall dude, will probably get the windsor 64cm

    That is if he doesnt chicken out of the tour.

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    I am not familiar with the Windsor, but I am with the REI Randonee. Great bike and if you use the 20% off coupons that come around several times a year it cannot be beat for value.
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    i've done heavy loaded touring on the crosscheck in the northwest (ca -> vancouver, BC). it was incredible, and I even used the original xcross gearing (****ed my knees pretty badly the first two days, and then strengthened them incredibly) on all the hills and mountains. that thing can handle anything!

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    ck the specks on the windsor the 58 has a degree less head tube angle giving it a longer wheelbase than the 64. extra stand over hight wont hurt. I wonder why they bother with the 64?? this is the deal with the Volpe also and I have 90 cm legs and the 58 is great.
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    I'm 6' 2" and my Cross Check is a 58. It fits much better than the 60 cm frame that preceded it. I use it as a daily commuter, road, and on/off road loaded tourer. I've been very happy with it in all of these configurations. The fork and rear stay geometry allows for mountain bike hub sizes and up to a 700x45 tire (something I found really nice off road). The steel frame is forgiving, not flexy-comfortable on long rides, feels very rugged too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sccr2337
    Ok, those are my final choices. I canceled my Trek 520 order, the more I thought about it the more I couldnt justify paying that much when I can use the extra money to add on nicer components.

    I've narrowed it down to these 3 options. I am placing the order on Wednesday and wanted any last ditch effort opinions by the good people in this forum.

    I can only find the REI and Windsor in a 58cm frame, which kind of has me worried because even though it looks like it might fit, I really dont want to go through the hastle of shipping it back. I am 6'2 and am always concerned when purchasing online, you just never know how a certain bike might fit differently.

    So, any advice is welcomed!
    http://www.rei.com/online/store/Prod...ory_rn=4500922

    http://www.surlybikes.com/bikes.html

    What are the odd's? I own an 02 Novara Randonee and a Surly CrossCheck. I have toured the Oregon coast on the Randonee. I am 230# and 5'11'' with an inseam of 30" (short legs).

    Randonee
    ++ Load handling
    ++ Chainstay length Size 12 shoes
    ++ Value On sale $450
    ++ on Paint
    ++ Rack mount, fender clearance
    ++ Stock wheels
    +- Gruppo "Tiagra"
    +- Gearing 30-39-50 approx (I changed it)
    -- Brakes, hard to adjust, eat rims, even with cool stops (I'm fat...)

    Cross Check
    ++ ride unloaded
    ++ Chainstay length Size 12 shoes, fender clearance
    -- Price
    -- Loaded touring
    -- No front pannier attachment
    = This is now a great fixed gear travel bike with S&S Couplers, backpack case.
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