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Old 07-23-06, 07:55 AM   #1
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Using noodles to get cables out of the way of bags

I posted something similar to the below in the mechanics forum but so far no answerer. So I thought I would post it here because it may be mote of a touring trick than a mechanic fix.

I have Tiagra shifters on my dropped bars, I need to get the cables out of the way to fit a handle bar bag.

Someone suggested these but they are $8 a piece. Not that it is going to break me but that is a lot of money for something I could easily loose.

I understand that V-Brake noodles can be used? As mentioned on the page.

Do these types of noodles work with Tiagra brake handles?

Other than the amount of bend, what is the difference between a 135 and a 90? Is there a downside to bending too much?

Is there a downside to adding noodles in general?

What do I do with the barrel adjusters when adding the noodles?
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Old 07-23-06, 08:04 AM   #2
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This had been covered before so you might try a search. Here is one solution: http://bicyclesports.us/id256.htm
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Any deep bend will add more friction. You can give it a shot and see how your cable works. I can say that when I installed the noodles that came with my v-brakes I was suprised at the added friction. My diacompe 287-v brake levers came with two additional noodles meant to be installed at each brake lever to help route the cable as it exits the lever. I skipped them beacuse the add friction was too much IMO.

Give it a shot though the only way to be sure is to try it.
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Can't help with any of your specific ?'s. but if you decide to try them, noodles are available from dealers such as http://www.biketoolsetc.com/ for $2-3.00 each (i.e., quite a bit cheaper than the price shown in your link) & probably for not much more at your LBS.
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Don't waste your time with a noodle when you can use the following:

http://www.arkel-od.com/technical/shiftersBB.asp

I installed the Rollamajig and it works very well.

The Rollamajig is easy to install and far more effecient that a noodle.

See this link to Performance, which is where I picked up mine.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...e.cfm?SKU=2838

While you are at it, put on new upgraded cables.

Be sure and pay attention to how you thread the Rollamajig onto the cable. Make sure you have the correct little ends and the "ball" in the right positions.
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Don't waste your time with a noodle when you can use the following:

http://www.arkel-od.com/technical/shiftersBB.asp

I installed the Rollamajig and it works very well.

The Rollamajig is easy to install and far more effecient that a noodle.

See this link to Performance, which is where I picked up mine.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...e.cfm?SKU=2838

While you are at it, put on new upgraded cables.

Be sure and pay attention to how you thread the Rollamajig onto the cable. Make sure you have the correct little ends and the "ball" in the right positions.
Thanks. Someone suggested these to me in another thread (could have been you). My concern is that they are $8 a pop. Once they are on, do you have a problem with them coming off?

What about the friction issues brought up by the others? Same problem with the Avid Rollamajig?

The link at performance shows them on the shifter? Wht is their true purpose?
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Thanks. Someone suggested these to me in another thread (could have been you). My concern is that they are $8 a pop. Once they are on, do you have a problem with them coming off?

What about the friction issues brought up by the others? Same problem with the Avid Rollamajig?

The link at performance shows them on the shifter? Wht is their true purpose?
No friction issues and if anything, improved shifting over straight cables. Certainly not the problem that you might expect with a noodle.

They can not come off. They slide onto the cable just like a noodle, except you have a wheel to redirect the cable. They were originally designed to work at the rear derailluer, but the other use is in keeping with them in the system.

My exprience shows them to be dollars well spent
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No friction issues and if anything, improved shifting over straight cables. Certainly not the problem that you might expect with a noodle.

They can not come off. They slide onto the cable just like a noodle, except you have a wheel to redirect the cable. They were originally designed to work at the rear derailluer, but the other use is in keeping with them in the system.

My exprience shows them to be dollars well spent
Have you used them on the rear derailler?

Do I need to remove the cable housing when I install them on the shifters?

What do I do with the barrel adjuster up near the shifters?
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I have never used the rollamajigs at the derailluer, but they perform wonderfully to redirect the cables out out of the brifter.

Don't know what the barrel adusjter looks like on your setup, but if it is inline then just leave it there. If not, then place the rollamajigs to the side of the adjuster towards the derailluers.

You will have to remove the cable housings to install the rollamajig, but it really isn't as tough as it sounds. Just follow the instructions on the rollamajigs. On the front, shift to the relaxed position on the derailluer, which should be your small front cog. Remove the cable, slide the housings off and install the new cable and housings. You may want to trim some of the housing closest to the brifter about an inch to get the right arc on the cable. Take a little off at a time and check to see if you like it.
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I understand that V-Brake noodles can be used? As mentioned on the page.

Do these types of noodles work with Tiagra brake handles?

Other than the amount of bend, what is the difference between a 135 and a 90? Is there a downside to bending too much?

Is there a downside to adding noodles in general?

What do I do with the barrel adjusters when adding the noodles?
Yes, the noodle from a v-brake can be used. You have to cut the end of the noodle off (not the end where the cable housing comes in but the other end) and you'll need a ferrule to put on the end that you cut off. The advantage of the v-brake noodle over the roll-a-majig is that they are much smaller and out of the way. They are also sealed against the weather. I haven't noticed any difference in shifting preformance from regular cables. You can get noodles in various bends and lengths, I use a 90 degree one.

I don't know what kind of adjusters you have but the end of the noodle can be put into the adjuster just like a cable end. If you have in-line adjusters, it's pretty simple really.
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Interested in what you decided to do and how it worked out. Let us know, I'm interested in the noodle solution vs the Rollamjig's.
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