Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Touring Have a dream to ride a bike across your state, across the country, or around the world? Self-contained or fully supported? Trade ideas, adventures, and more in our bicycle touring forum.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-23-06, 12:05 PM   #1
sano
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thinking about the southern tier

Hello,

We (5 coworkers and I) are considering going coast to coast on the southern tier route. We are hoping to to pack ultra-light and put most of the weight on our credit cards. We would plan on staying in motels every night. Who has done this? Do you have any advice for us?
btw. We are all men ranging from 19-32 years old and are fairly strong riders. One of the requirment for going along, besides base miles is that each of us has to have at least 2 double centuries under our belt before we leave. We would hope to average around 100 miles a day.
Thanks in advance for any advice or pointers you may have.
sano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-06, 03:04 PM   #2
jamawani 
Hooked on Touring
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Wyoming
Bikes:
Posts: 2,268
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Umm - when exactly are you planning to do this? It has been pushing 120 degrees in southern Arizona all week. Here's a website that give's you temps and precip for the entire West - very detailed, but very easy to use. http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/climsum.html
jamawani is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-06, 10:18 PM   #3
sano
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
We do not have a date set. We thought maybe February would be good timing. We are still in the planning stages.
sano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-06, 02:10 AM   #4
outashape
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Michigan
Bikes:
Posts: 777
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
You might want to PM a fellow on BF named Will Denhue. He cycled on this trip. http://www.abbike.com/fastsouth.shtml It is a supported tour. I think an important part is to make sure you have heavier wheels (more spokes) than is standard with a regular road bike not geared for touring. Another factor I will whisper is that with all young guys on long mileage days, you will all be competing to keep up with the fastest rider and you will be very sore. An average cyclist without touring weight shouldn't have too much trouble with 100 mile days. Your body should adjust within the first ten days. Mentally, it gets hard to drive yourself for such a long time.
outashape is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-06, 08:36 AM   #5
will dehne
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: rockford, il
Bikes: Trek 7700, C'dale R2000
Posts: 2,646
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by sano
Hello,

We (5 coworkers and I) are considering going coast to coast on the southern tier route. We are hoping to to pack ultra-light and put most of the weight on our credit cards. We would plan on staying in motels every night. Who has done this? Do you have any advice for us?
btw. We are all men ranging from 19-32 years old and are fairly strong riders. One of the requirment for going along, besides base miles is that each of us has to have at least 2 double centuries under our belt before we leave. We would hope to average around 100 miles a day.
Thanks in advance for any advice or pointers you may have.
Outashape made me aware of your Thread.
We did the Fast across South tour in May at 100 to 150 miles/day. There were about 30 bikers (four female). There was SAG support and motels and the route was organized by America by Bicycle. (there is another tour operator called "Atlantic Pacific Cycling) We traveled ultra light as you say. The temperatures ranged from freezing to over 100 degrees. The SAG allowed change of clothes every 40 miles if needed.
Flats were a BIG issue. Some had 20 flats over 3000 miles. Wheels were an issue. There were at least six wheel failures including me. The road surfaces were terrible in places. Again, the SAG rescued us/me with spare wheels.
I found that my training for this trip was very appropriate. I used a CycleOps Fluid 2 trainer to get in shape over the Chicago winter. A good test is doing 100 miles in six hours riding time on this trainer.
I am training for the next tour now and got my average trainer speed up to 17.5 MPH as of this weekend. I do ride also on roads and trails but find the trainer a good simulation to going uphill all day in the AZ Mountains.
Nutrition was a big issue. If you are interested I can share some of that experience.
BTW, some bikers had to go to a hospital and at least six got quite sick.
will dehne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-06, 09:32 AM   #6
sano
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks everyone this is good information.
Will dehne, it sounds like we better think in terms of having a support vehicle.
I would be interested in hearing about your nutrition experiences. When you say that six got sick, were they mostly from exhaustion?
I am glad to hear about your training. We are also coming from a northern climate (Wisconsin). We are somewhat concerned about maintaining fitness over the winter till our tour. I am guessing that doing 100 miles on the trainer would also build mental strength.
Thanks again!
sano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-06, 10:50 AM   #7
Erick L
Lentement mais sûrement
 
Erick L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Montréal
Bikes:
Posts: 2,146
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Read this: http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/in...p/t-53907.html
Erick L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-06, 12:36 PM   #8
sano
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks Erick, that is a great link.
sano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-06, 12:53 PM   #9
will dehne
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: rockford, il
Bikes: Trek 7700, C'dale R2000
Posts: 2,646
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by sano
Thanks everyone this is good information.
Will dehne, it sounds like we better think in terms of having a support vehicle.
I would be interested in hearing about your nutrition experiences. When you say that six got sick, were they mostly from exhaustion?
I am glad to hear about your training. We are also coming from a northern climate (Wisconsin). We are somewhat concerned about maintaining fitness over the winter till our tour. I am guessing that doing 100 miles on the trainer would also build mental strength.
Thanks again!
Our tour is called "Fast Across America South" at 100 to 150 miles/day.
I would not try to do that unsupported. We needed all the help we could get.
Some days were 150 miles in freezing rain, against a strong wind. Some days were brutally hot with Sun Block, Salt and Gatorade crucial for survival.
(Did you know that there is water poisoning? I did that, it is no fun)
My successful formula for nutrition was:
Breakfast with double rations of Oatmeal plus eggs plus any carbohydrates I could get.
SAG support at 40 miles with Gatorade, Sun-block, Water, Trail-mix, Energy Bars, Bananas.
SAG support at 80 miles with Lunch, Pasta, Bagels, fresh fruit, Cheese, Cold Cuts, Peanut Butter, Jelly plus same as above.
SAG support at 120 miles if going 150 miles. Same as first SAG.
Upon arrival at motel: Recovery drink of 1000 calories Chocolate milkshake.
One hour sleep.
Dinner with Steak and potatoes or equivalent.
I was one of few people who did not get sick and felt better toward the end of the tour.

The bikers who got sick had Flu like symptoms. Could have been food poisoning, flu or exhaustion. My opinion: Probably all three.
Some very strong bikers injured their knees. (Pushing to big a gear)
Some did not tolerate the cold and I am sensitive to overheating.

Going up to Mingus Mountain or Flagstaff is more difficult than 100 miles on a trainer.
My trainer routine is 15 minutes at 17 MPH, stand up for three minutes at 18.5 MPH and repeat that for one hour. Rest for five minutes and repeat.

Of course, this is all assuming that you want to go Fast. Some people take it easy and that is a different tour.

BTW, I just did the Reedsburg to Elroy to Sparta to Onalaska to Trempelau Rail to Trail in Your State. That is 100 miles one way. (Return the next day)
will dehne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-06, 07:58 AM   #10
sano
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks will dehne,
That is good information.
I think I have done the Sparta/Elroy 8 or 10 times, but I haven't been down in the last 5 years or so. I always thought that trail was a great model for towns looking to attract tourist. Thanks again for all your good information.
sano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-06, 08:50 PM   #11
will dehne
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: rockford, il
Bikes: Trek 7700, C'dale R2000
Posts: 2,646
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
sano:
This Thread below was written while I was on the tour. Therefore it is free style and may give you guys an honest glimpse what it is like. There is also what bikes were used in there somewhere.
Yo! Will Dehne...You Forgot a Camera?? !!

Good luck and have fun.
Will
will dehne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-06, 06:20 PM   #12
lighthorse@eart
Florida to Oregon in 2007
 
lighthorse@eart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Florida
Bikes: LeMond Buenos Aires, Trek 7500, Scattante CFR, Burley Hudson
Posts: 138
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I did the southern route solo unsupported without carrying camping gear and it worked out fine. The longest day that I rode was 93 miles and that was my choice, there were shorter options that day. If you do the route west to east as I did you need to leave the third or fourth week of March to get across the desert early but not hit snow in the mountains. I would be happy to share any additional details that would help.
lighthorse@eart is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:38 PM.