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Old 08-29-06, 06:20 AM   #1
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Hennessy Hammock as a Tent: The Staff Trick doesn't Work

The old staff trick doesn't seem to work for me. It doesn't stay upright and I don't want to crash to the ground in the middle of the night when I turn over.

Does anyone have any experience using the Hennessy hammock as a tent? What kind of tent poles should I buy?
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This is very vague indeed, but I seem to remember someone reporting a more stable variation of the staff trick. They first tied the hammock to the staff normally. Needless to say, the staff will not support the hammock. Next, they draw two supporting lines from staff to something solid enough and pull it tight.

In the end, looking from birds-eye perspective, the assembly should resemble letter Y, support lines being the upper "forks" of the letter and line to hammock being the single "leg" of the letter. Staff is where the three lines meet. Two support lines provide sideways stability that the old staff trick lacks. Downside is, you need extra rope/lines.

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I have a Hennesey hammock and when I left on mu tour I had concerns about if there were trees. South Ameerica is full of trees even thoigh they are cutting down the juingle (another story). I brought extra pegs made of aluminium. I've only used two and they were to anchour the cover (fly). I can't offer more info than that.
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Thanks for the help!

I'm going to Mountain Equipment Co-op on Saturday to see if they have anything to help. I find the staff quite helpful because they actually use the products they sell. Luckily in Toronto, Europe Bound is right across the road, so if one doesn't have something, the other surely will!

I tried using the hammock at a tent a couple of days ago and it makes a lousy tent. I'm going to have to think outside the box on this one.

Any other ideas would be gratefully accepted!
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Hey Stokell, just buy an extra 5 foot section of rope.

One time, I was only only able to find a tree and a fence corner. The fence wasn't strong enough to hold me up in the air (without me damaging the fence). So, that night, I was in my hammock, but most of my back was in contact with the ground. No stress on the fence, and it's still really comfy. Also warmer too as there was little air flowing under me.

That trick, as well as having a section of longer rope, solves everything. Of course, I#ve never actually needed the extra rope section.
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Okay, sorry for answering my own post:

Earlier in the week I went out and found some scrub about 15 km's from my home. There was one tree substantial enough to fasten to. I had previously purchased an adjustable locking tent pole from MEC. I also took numerous pegs and lines. I discovered that a three point setup did the job. The first point was at 180 degrees using the hammock line. Two others were at 90 and 270. This offered enough support for the hammock to display properly and made it easy to access (remember Hennessy hammocks are accessed from the bottom).

Points to remember; always use aluminum tent pegs. The dross I got from Canadian Tire cracked under foot. They promised to glow in the dark. The package never mentioned they were as strong as the average toothpick.

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When I go on these light trips I often take two shelters, like a bivy and a tarp, or tent and tarp. Still may weigh under 3 pounds which seems reasonable to me.

Like the bivy is fine for sleeping in the door of a shop or on a mountain ledge, or any area too tight to tent. The tarp fills the oposite end of the spectrum. It gets cold I use the bivy as a vapour barrier or the tarp as a vb in the bivy. Or let's say there are lots of bear, not a few, a possitive wilderness circus. How about sititng in the bivy with the tarp for a canopy so at least one doesn't look like a packed salami. Etc... Or maybe I will take my Black Ice down bag, then I can use the bivy over it if it rains, even in the tent, just to keep it from getting too humid.

On this trip I hope to use the tent in regular campgrounds or if it turns nasty cold, and i will use the hennesey if I find nice forest areas to sleep. At least that's the plan...
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I'm going to Mountain Equipment Co-op on Saturday to see if they have anything to help. I find the staff quite helpful because they actually use the products they sell. Luckily in Toronto, Europe Bound is right across the road, so if one doesn't have something, the other surely will!

I tried using the hammock at a tent a couple of days ago and it makes a lousy tent. I'm going to have to think outside the box on this one.

Any other ideas would be gratefully accepted!
This is an idea I had, but haven't tried out yet. Could you support the ridgeline of the hammock between two objects - a picnic table and your bike maybe, and sleep in the hammock on the ground like a tent?
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Interesting, though, not sure how waterproof the floor is, but as long as it's nice? There is a person sized hole down there...
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This is an idea I had, but haven't tried out yet. Could you support the ridgeline of the hammock between two objects - a picnic table and your bike maybe, and sleep in the hammock on the ground like a tent?
Thanks, but I mostly stealth camp, so I don't get a picnic table.
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Thanks, but I mostly stealth camp, so I don't get a picnic table.
Okay use your imagination. Between two bikes if you have company. Your bike and a stump. Two small trees.
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When I go with a tarp I have run one tree and the bike. It holds up the tarp ok, but a person? I'm used to hanging from nothing from my old climbing days, so I am open to a bunch of options, but you could get seriously hurt falling on your back even from a modest height if you are depending one some light stuff to form your support.
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When I go with a tarp I have run one tree and the bike. It holds up the tarp ok, but a person? I'm used to hanging from nothing from my old climbing days, so I am open to a bunch of options, but you could get seriously hurt falling on your back even from a modest height if you are depending one some light stuff to form your support.
You wouldn't suppport yourself in the hammock between a bike and say a small tree. You would simply use these objects to keep the ridgeline tight enough to support the hammock tarp and netting off you. You would lie on the ground inside the hammock.

Its just a way to use your hammock in situations that don't allow for it to be suspended between two trees.
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