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Old 09-21-06, 11:08 AM   #1
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Touring frame?

Hi, found this frame on the net. Not sure if it is a touring frame or not (guy has it set up as singlespeed). Can anyone help? Supposedly it is a Fuji Champion though googling has not helped me.

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Old 09-21-06, 11:51 AM   #2
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My aged and untrained eyes tell me it is a mountain-type frame. How high is the BB from the ground? Around 12"? I think tour frames will have a lower BB. My Trek 520 is at 10-1/2" for low center of gravity. Also I don't see any hardpoints for bombs and other armaments. A dedicated tour frame will be loaded with 'em. Yours could be a racing type. Maybe they don't have hardpoints - why would they?

Now, that doesn't mean that a mtb won't have them either - my old 830 has more hardpoints than my 520. Go figure?? Alot of old rigid mtb frames have them and they make great expedition/tour bikes.

How 'bout it guys - what is it?
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Old 09-21-06, 12:21 PM   #3
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I can't really tell from looking at the detail in the picture. I looks more stretched out and relaxed than any hardtail I have. The head angle and seat angle look really low, like as low as 70 degrees. Hard to ride singeltrack on that.

What tire and frame size are we talking here?
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Old 09-21-06, 12:30 PM   #4
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I don't know but looking at the wheels, the spokes and yeah, the lack of braze-ons or anything, makes me think it is a racing type bike.
I did some touring with a guy who bought a 'really sweet bike' off the internet, kind of on a whim. Problem was, it was a really sweet racing bike, the tires were so thin I was amazed that he didn't pop one of em on the tour. They had big chips and dents in them by the time we were done.
Also, there were no braze-ons so he had to jerry-rig up his bike with a rack and panniers. Riding behind him watching that stuff sway in the breeze like a flag was a hoot!!
I was on a cheap mtb that worked great and the slick tires on it held up way better. going offroad looking for campsites, he was definitely at a disadvantage.
I would keep lookin!

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to the OP: why did I leave the plow in the field? THAT oldhomeplace?
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Old 09-22-06, 10:27 AM   #5
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No eyelets or braze ons that I can see. Chainstays look short too. I would keep looking.
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I don't know but looking at the wheels, the spokes and yeah, the lack of braze-ons or anything, makes me think it is a racing type bike.
I did some touring with a guy who bought a 'really sweet bike' off the internet, kind of on a whim. Problem was, it was a really sweet racing bike, the tires were so thin I was amazed that he didn't pop one of em on the tour. They had big chips and dents in them by the time we were done.
Also, there were no braze-ons so he had to jerry-rig up his bike with a rack and panniers. Riding behind him watching that stuff sway in the breeze like a flag was a hoot!!
I was on a cheap mtb that worked great and the slick tires on it held up way better. going offroad looking for campsites, he was definitely at a disadvantage.
I would keep lookin!

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to the OP: why did I leave the plow in the field? THAT oldhomeplace?
The one and the same!
Thanks for the info folks, I think the fab orange color blew me over initially, but you've brought me to my senses. Plus I just found a hot Peugeot PR10 which is what I really wanted. Thanks!
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Um...maybe me eyes work slightly differently, but:

700c wheels, too slack angles and horizontal dropouts say no to mtb
Seems to have braze-ons for mudguard/rack on rear dropouts
Chainstays look longish to me, around 45cm perhaps, they just look shorter because of the slack seat tube.

It looks very much like a 40's/50's type bike with those kind of angles, but have Fuji been around that long?(doubtful)

It's all pretty bizarre, I'll tell you that much.
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Old 09-22-06, 06:09 PM   #8
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I would say yes based on the space between the tire and the seattube--indicating a long chainstay and wheelbase--but a mtb frame has that characteristic too. The seattube angle does seem pretty slack--less than 72 degrees, which would be less than ~70-80s era tour bikes. Seems like a pretty nice-looking fork for something as old as the 40-50s but not like a mtb fork either.

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