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    Refitting an older tourer

    Since I didn't get any feed back on my Nishiki Cresta post I will ask some specific questions about some of the component issues. The components on the bike are all almost like brand new despite their age. The bike was thrown together with some parts bought for it, but mostly with stuff that was bought for other projects. It was then not used much, except for a brief period where it had a baby seat on it. That "baby" graduates from college this Spring so the bike has been hanging in storage for a long time.

    I have a sentimental attachment to this bike, so I am thinking of fixing it up as a touring bike. That was the original intention when I bought the frameset, but I was bitten by the MTB racing bug at the time. The frame was designed for touring and appears to be well made. I am not sure it wouldn't be smarter to sell it and buy a t800, but...

    Brakes
    It currently has old (early 80's?) Dura Ace sidepulls. I know that sidepull brakes are out of fashion on touring bikes, but will they be adequate? As sidepulls go these are quality brakes.

    Drive train
    I have a like new clamp on Deore XT (80's) front derauileur that I think should work out nicely to replace the Dura Ace double that is currently on it.

    The current rear deraileur is a Shimano Crane GS which was well tought of in it's day. It is probably what would have been used when this frame was new. Is it up to the task?

    The current shifters are Dura Ace friction bar ends (again probably early 80's). I may use them but actually prefer down tube shifters. I would have to use clamp on shifters or at least a clamp on adaptor if I went to downtube shifters.

    Wheels
    Dura Ace (early 80's?) 36 spoke hubs laced to unknown (weinman maybe) alloy 27" rims. It has a 7 speed 13-28 freewheel. I think these should be OK, right?

    The current crankset is a 52/39 Dura Ace double. I need to replace it with a triple. I was thinking of buying an MTB crank, but prefer something that looks more at home on a early 80's touring frame than most of the stuff currently on the market. I like the looks and price of the Sugino XC600 crankset, but the low price makes me wonder if it is up to the task. I think I will take the chance and try it unless someone convinces me that it would be a bad mistake.

    Comments on any of this are welcome, including advising me to bail out on this and buy a new touring bike.

    Pete

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    I am not familliar with the specific model, but component wise it looks to me like you´re set! I´m planning on running a double crankset on my bike of similar vintage, but perhaps you´d want som more carefully chosen chainrings with regards to gearing.
    I say slap a new chain on, change the cables, change tires, some new bartape, get som fenders and racks and you´re good to go. Oh, and a Brooks of course.
    Some pics would be nice!
    /Erik

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    Sugino cranks are plenty good for your bike. Get a nice 46-36-26 triple and new bottom bracket (118 mm spindle I think-- check at the LBS) and relax. It will hold up longer than the rest of the bike.

    I wouldn't mess with any drivetrain stuff except for new cables and housing. Same with the brakes.

    If you're thinking about a loaded tour, you might want to get a new rear wheel. You can order a new Dimention brand rear wheel from QBP. Get a Tiagra hub with a Sun CR18 rim and a new cassette becuase your freewheel won't fit. Buy a new chain and lube everything. Then hit the road!

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    Sugino cranks are plenty good for your bike. Get a nice 46-36-26 triple and new bottom bracket (118 mm spindle I think-- check at the LBS) and relax. It will hold up longer than the rest of the bike.

    I wouldn't mess with any drivetrain stuff except for new cables and housing. Same with the brakes.

    If you're thinking about a loaded tour, you might want to get a new rear wheel. You can order a new Dimention brand rear wheel from QBP. Get a Tiagra hub with a Sun CR18 rim and a new cassette becuase your freewheel won't fit. Buy a new chain and lube everything. Then hit the road!

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    i don't see any reason to go all the way down to a 46-26 up front if your going to a triple. unless you're pretty out of shape or are planning on hauling a huge load with a trailer. that low, and it's hard to make any kind of speed on the flats or when the wind is to your back. i'd guess you can source a 7-speed freewheel that goes up to 32 teeth or so. here's a link to a gear ratio calculator:
    http://sheldonbrown.com/gears/

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacomee
    If you're thinking about a loaded tour, you might want to get a new rear wheel. You can order a new Dimention brand rear wheel from QBP. Get a Tiagra hub with a Sun CR18 rim and a new cassette becuase your freewheel won't fit. Buy a new chain and lube everything. Then hit the road!
    The wheels you have (or at least the hubs) are just fine unless you want to convert to a cassette. The cassette is stronger. Go a little higher than Tiagra if you can but a road hub should be just fine. If you could find an old XT hub in a 7 speed, those had 130 mm width which would work and are bomb proof. But they can be hard to find.
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