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Old 12-03-06, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by nebben123
I'm all for different food lifestyle choices, but anyone who goes on a raw diet should know that it has the potential to be dangerous (like everything) if you don't do it correctly. Many people assume that anything raw is better for them to eat than cooked, and this is not always the case. I know this because I was vegan for three years. Just make sure you do your homework first. And no, cooked food is not bad for you either
How is this diet dangerous? Please explain.
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I'm not saying it's inherently dangerous, it's just dangerous if you don't do it right. There is nothing wrong with raw foods (unless you try to eat foods that *need* to be cooked). Like I said before, just do your homework first. It's like the difference between a person who is vegan and shops at farmers markets, and asian markets, and is aware of all the different varieties of food that you need to supply your body with the proper balance of nutrition... versus the vegan who eats tortilla chips and salsa and thinks they've had a proper meal.

I love raw food meals (but I also like bacon too *grin*)... when I was in LA about 3 years ago, I ate at the most famous raw restaurant "Juliano's" and it was simply amazing.
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About cooking on the road.

I like to cook at home, but I hate to play with fire. Besides, when I'm at home, I am one who typically cooks a lot of hot food 8-9 months a year and eats salads in Summer. Since I tour in Summer, I typically don't carry a stove. When it's cold, I will either stop to eat at a restaurant or eat my own food and take coffee in a coffee shop. Not only do I get the warm stuff, I also benefit from the warm place.

As I toured with the children this summer, I decided to bring along the stove. It allowed more variety but also meant more stuff to carry around. So I still think that when I'll tour by myself, I'll leave the stove at home, unless I tour during a cold season.
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In re: Raw Diet Danger


As long as you don't make an abrupt(sp?) change it should be fine. Sometimes the human metabolism doesn't like drastic changes to the diet and can go haywire. Ease into it and all will be well.
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I have done "cookless" touring if you don't count boiling water for coffee.

Sorry, the sun just doesn't rise without that first cup of joe.
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Wow! A !5 year old thread back from the dead!
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Originally Posted by cyclefish
I eat cookies while riding.
I eat people who eat cookies while riding. Raw. Wanna go on a ride? I’ll bring the cookies.
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Old 05-21-21, 08:19 AM
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Cookies!! Blah!!!
I eat scones!!!
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Who can resist responding to a 15 year old thread?!

I rarely bring a stove camping, usually only to cold, wet places like NZ or Tasmania kind of places.

Raw cheese, charcuterie, fresh bread, fruit, and local wine in Europe. Lil Debbies in USA
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Old 05-21-21, 08:46 AM
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In another 15 years someone will post in to say they fast while touring.
I personally like to ride from city to city, stopping at hospitals along the way to receive intravenous therapy. It's a challenge but man, do I slim down.
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Originally Posted by Happy Feet
In another 15 years someone will post in .....
The guy on this forum that is always pitching solar powered bike lights, in 15 years he will suggest solar cookers instead of camp stoves.
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Originally Posted by Rowan
A couple of observations:

1. To cook on a bike tour, you need to know how to cook at home. I often get the feeling that people who tour and eat exclusively at cafes or "cold" simply don't want to admit they can't cook. Of course, apologies to those who *can* cook but for some unfathomable reason don't on tour.

2. The time spent preparing, cooking and cleaning up after a meal is a bit like the old (and I think forgotten) family gathering time at home. I mean... what else are you going to do after you get into camp and have set up? Lie around doing nothing? Well... that's OK, but there is a sort of community in cooking, whether at your tent, or in the campground kitchen. It gives you a chance to interact with others with similar interests, and to pick a bit of information about where you're going and where they've been.

3. What to cook? The sky is the limit! It all depends on your skills (refer item 1). There are countless recipes out there for all sorts of meals. Fresh fruit and vegetables and varieties of potted, canned, smoked or fermented meat are available where most posters are likely to tour. A few condiments and spices can make the world of difference. Really, there are only three or four basic recipes. Take a look at the pictures attached to this post. The curry is lamb made with vegetables bought much earlier in the day; the pancakes speak for themselves. All cooked on a trusty Trangia alcohol stove. I think Stokell has some samples of his culinary art stashed somewhere, too. But you do need to practice at home with your camp stove when your stomach isn't necessarily depending on your to come up with a tasty, nourishing meal reasonably efficiently.

4. I know that when people say they prefer to pick up groceries each night that they haven't really been remote cycle touring in areas such as the Canadian Rockies where shops are very few and far between and what there is stocks expensive rubbish. As in hiking/bushwalking, "remote" cycle-touring does present its challenges in planning menus and food supplies. Like any other part of cycle touring, there is a degree of planning needed.

5. Part of that planning requires you have unused room in your panniers for food.

6. I wonder sometimes, too, at the endless budgets some people have to go on tour. Good luck to you. But for me, bought food in restaurants or takeaway/fast-food joints is just so, so expensive, and it is easy to blow $15 a day just in that. And after a while, it's much the same fare and can become boring. Add another $15 to $25 a night for campground accommodation and suddenly you're up to $40 a day without any other costs. I can't afford that sort of lucre, but it's not going to stop me going on long tours where I am fully self-supported.

6. I like hot meals in the evening except in high summer. That's the way I am. Others might like cold everything. But without a stove, you can't enjoy a coffee, tea or chocolate late in the evening, or if the weather turns nasty, you can't satisfy your inner soul with a cold drink of water.
This.

I can't imagine going long stretches without a shower. And the food subject is interesting. 6 hours on a trail and I am hungry!

And I am no fatty......although I did gain 10 pounds in the last year. Still under 170.
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Oh, is the thread that old? I usually find foods that I can eat cold with minimal preparation. Cookies and granola make good snacks. Cheese, Salami, breads, etc.

Much of my camping is down at dusk, up at dawn and on the road again. And, on occasion wild camping.

We have major fire issues around here, and I just don't need fire in my campsite.
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This 15 year old thread is reminding me to clean out my fridge and discard anything older than that.
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Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
This 15 year old thread is reminding me to clean out my fridge and discard anything older than that.
Save the Oscar Meyer hotdogs. They last forever.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Save the Oscar Meyer hotdogs. They last forever.
Man, if only I had kept a few Twinkees from the 70's, it would be a great scientific experiment.
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I hope all those who were desperately waiting for these 15 years for more replies got what they needed. If not maybe in 2036 they will.

Seriously, I have said it before but why can't threads be locked after some reasonable amount of time? They could be linked to if there was a good reason to refer back to old topics. There just is never a good reason to reopen a really old thread. Sure maybe refer to one and link to it, but don't reopen it and reply as if the OP was waiting for 15 years for an answer. There must be a setting that could be tweaked to facilitate this. I can see leaving a liberal amount of time but certainly anything over 2 years ought to be locked.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Man, if only I had kept a few Twinkees from the 70's, it would be a great scientific experiment.
In 2008 I went to an art show. Met a guy who had created a small, painted box with a sealed package of Oscar Meyer sandwich meat inside. It was bologna, IIRC. The box had a glass front window. After a year the meat didn’t look all that bad.
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One of my best mornings was rolling out of my camp site near Pistoia, Italy.

I found a small bakery with the smell of fresh baked bread. I think they even had an oven in the bakery. Mmmm. It has been a few years, but I think ended up with some pie like crisps, and stocked up on bread for the Abetone.
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When I went on my first tour at 18 years old, I literally packed 2 panniers full of cliff bars and apples. I went 2 weeks without needing a resupply haha.
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Originally Posted by craig_dahlke
When I went on my first tour at 18 years old, I literally packed 2 panniers full of cliff bars and apples. I went 2 weeks without needing a resupply haha.
I've posted this a few times.


It may look like a big bed roll on the back of my bike, but that was really a bear barrel packed with granola and snacks. I was only out for about 4 days, but had more than enough food for a week (without cooking).

A lot of hard climbing. The next time I will economize some. The parks department wouldn't let me take my bike to any established wild camps anyway (can't even carry a bike off the road), and I didn't really like the concept of a bear barrel anyway. I feared that if I left a bear barrel out on a ridge, or near a river, it might just vanish.

I was only planning on 3 days, but I just couldn't get the miles in (very long days as it was), so it was four days with food left over.
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Originally Posted by craig_dahlke
When I went on my first tour at 18 years old, I literally packed 2 panniers full of cliff bars and apples. I went 2 weeks without needing a resupply haha.
For years in my late teens/early twenties I basically lived on bread and cheese, and the occasional fruit.

As the years went by, I found myself preferring to cook more and more (lots of beans and rice, haha, I’m a simple soul). Not sure if there’s a biological reason for this or if it was just a changing of habit from cold to hot...

Anyone else been the same?
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There are a few cookless foods that I can recommend.









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My next tour is in population dense country. I do not plan to bring anything to cook with. I will simply stop along the way and buy what I want to eat and drink
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[QUOTE=joseph senger;3299115]dropped down from 225 to 185/QUOTE]wow, good work! I'm super jealous! stop eating cr*p!
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