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Old 04-03-03, 09:40 AM   #1
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Anyone been attacked by dogs while touring?

I had a bad experience in Southwestern Ontario last year. It seems the locals don't tie up their dogs in rural areas. I was attacked a number of times.
At first I tried to outrun them...not a good idea, then I tried putting my feet up on the crossbar...oops they catch up to you. On one attack three dogs came at me, it was a stand off until they finally left.

I was reading this article:
http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/journal/?doc_id=194

It seems to advocate carrying pepper spray.

Anyone have any comments?
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Old 04-03-03, 10:10 AM   #2
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Carry pepper spray. Aim for the eyes. Pedal fast.
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Old 04-03-03, 10:21 AM   #3
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I know the streets of my town well- in terms of any kind of danger to cycling.. I avoid where the dogs are. I do carry pepper spray sometimes..
By ordinace dogs need be tied up. Do you call the police? I sure do.. We need not tolerate this... I bike with one dog lover. She says dogs are attracted by the spinning of the wheels and it is their nature.
She says you talk to them in a friendly by firm voice they disassociate the human from the bikes' motion and that might help calm them down.. Dog psychiology she claims to use. Seemed to work, when she was with me at least.
Southwestern Ontario.. Pretty rural. Where are you London , Leamington? Love to ride in that area, I have some cousins who live in London.. Good luck with the dogs..
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Dogs are a recurring source of posts on many of these BIKEFORUMS boards. My best dog story is when I was attacked by Rottweilers near Chichestina in Alaska at thte start of my world tour. The long and short of the whole affair was that they followed me out into the road and were plowed into oblivion by an oncoming Winnebago. The sound of the impact was unreal!
Two dogs into doggy heaven.

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Old 04-04-03, 03:41 PM   #5
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Well, it's only an urban legend but it really hits the spot as far as what we would like to see happen to obnoxious dogs
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Old 04-04-03, 08:47 PM   #6
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My dog problems haven't been unnerving while touring. I live in a rural area, though, so I have dog problems all the time. Landmarks for my rides are the houses with problem dogs.

Rural dogs are nothing like urban, or suburban dogs. Many of them roam free, their time their own, and will charge you with blood on their minds as you roll past. Some bark; some don't. The latter are trying to rush up behind you and bite your *ss before you know what hit you. The sound that alarms me the most is not barking, but the faint clickety-clack of dogs' nails on the road.

I love dogs, but I am filled with hostility toward our best friends when I'm out on the steed. I play no games.

As a practical matter, when dogs tear off the farm after me my first inclination is to stop, and dismount. If I'm off of the bike, the dogs can't knock me off. If they're interested in fighting, I'm ready to tangle with two feet on the ground, a bike frame in my hands, and hard-soled shoes ready to caress Fido's ribs. Dismounting helps impress the dogs with the fact that I'm human. Standing up and staring at them almost always intimidates them.

Sometimes I sprint , but only if I'm certain I'm going to get away. So, I want a head start, and a clear view to make sure there aren't other dogs ahead. It's too dangerous to try to deal with dogs on the bike when they're close at hand; they can bite your achilles tendon, or they can knock your bike over. So, I'll err on the side of caution.

Speaking of caution, if you stare a dog down and then make your way away, watch out behind you. Some of the curs will skulk away, only to try to sneak up behind you again when you try to ride away.

I carried rocks for a while for dogs that would always tear out after me, but retreat when I turned to face them. Throwing rocks stopped them from pursuing. Pepper spray is good if you can get a good blast in. But it's hard to do that while you're riding without spraying yourself, and dogs sometimes retreat if they see you pointing something at them. So, you can't always get a good spray in. But it's certainly worth carrying. If you do nail a dog with pepper spray, his days of chasing you are behind him.

The important thing is to be alert. Watch out for houses with a lot of old furniture, cars, and other things out front, as a dog might be lurking somewhere there. Watch out in particular for houses with people out front, smoking cigarettes or working on their cars. If they're out there, their dogs are going to be out there too. Don't go to sleep in dog country.
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Old 04-06-03, 12:47 PM   #7
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Try rural Tennessee Try the clickity click of doggie nails on asphault in the dark!
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Old 04-09-03, 07:23 PM   #8
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I got attacked in Hungary last summer. I was just riding thru and this dog came up and started chasing me and i was freaking out until i put that puppy into high gear and watched that dog disappear
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Old 04-09-03, 09:40 PM   #9
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I don't know why I read all these dog threads. One of these days someone's going to post a story that's going to scare me off my bike.

I haven't really had too much trouble from dogs. Yelling or a squirt from the water bottle so far has saved me from any real problems, but then these were probably not real determined doggies!
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re dogs i purchased a "dog dazer"
it works !!!!!

its like an electronic dog whistle

when we approach "pooch" territory my partner on the back of the tandem zaps em with the dog dazer works a treat
doesnt harm the dogs just like a dog whistle
costs about £30 great investment

taking ours to poland in may might need more batteries
polish dogs are vicious or so im told
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Old 04-11-03, 06:10 AM   #11
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Where can one purchase a 'Dog Dazer"? Is there a web site? How does it work?
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Old 04-11-03, 10:52 AM   #12
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try this site
dont know about us or canada tho
email the company
http://www.dazer.com/dog-deterrent.jsp
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Old 04-12-03, 08:09 AM   #13
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I have noticed that acting in an aggressive manner back at the dog usually causes them to get uglyer. I generaly out ride them because they get out of their teritory and quit, or on an uphill I get off and walk. Never have been bit!
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Two dog stories. Draw your own conclusions.

Years ago, my wife and I were touring in southern Oregon a bit inland from the coast. I had just crested the top of a hill with my wife behind, when I heard a big rural dog barking -- a Great Dane. It came loping up to the road and got there just as my wife arrived at the crest of the hill.

Pedalling for all she was worth in her low gear, left over from the hill, the Great Dane just lumbered beside her, head at handlebar height. Good thing it wasn't hungry. Nothing bad happened.

The other dog story took place north of Golden, BC on the east side of the Canadian Rockies. We were zooming down a long hill. At the bottom was a rural dog was chasing cars and barking aggressively. We were touring with our daughter in a Cannondale trailer, the old PVC half clam shell style from a couple decades ago.

I was not eager to get tangled up with the dog, what with my three year old daughter at dog level in the trailer.

As we got closer and the dog started lining up on us, I accelerated down the hill and aimed directly AT the dog screaming epithets. The dog dropped it's tail and decided to beat a retreat to the side of the road, being not at all interested in chasing something that was threatening it.

No other dog problems -- so far, though I hear rural French dogs can be annoying. We'll find out this summer.

Locally, I complain about loose dogs. I have thought about pepper spray, but have never carried it. If the wind is wrong you can nail yourself instead of the dog.
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If they get close enough, sometimes squirting your water bottle at them works. A firm "NO!" is often all you need. The worst breed I've encountered are little terriors. They think they're King Kong.
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I was touring in France last summer.
I passed this by house in countryside w/ couple of
dogs, looked back and saw them coming out of the yard and
after me. While still looking back at them, I crossed to the other
side of the road (wrong way) and sped up. I had not even checked whether there was traffic coming down that way.
Don't even want to think about what would have happened.
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Of late it seems that in this rural NC county where I reside that folks are vying for the real vicious breed, and ignoring leash laws...in the past carrying pepper spray was routine, but now I carry a 41 cal. Glock...

Also, in the editorial page of the local paper I've in the past have sent a letter to the editor which informed dog owners that should I be attacked and injuried by their dog/s I was prepared to sue them for everything that they owned, plus file criminal charges against them (felony assult and battery with a deadly weapon).....
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There was this Chihuahua...I was riding outside Asheville, North Carolina, new territory for me. This little bit of a fur-ball came barreling at me, yapping all the way. I was concerned about running him over but the 2 foot fence was more than he could handle. Well, what he was really doing was setting me up for his next door neighbors, a pit bull and his mongrel buddy. The snarling and barking was terrifying. They had no fence to stop them. I was on an uphill so I knew there was no way to out run them, so off the bike I go and try to keep it between me and them. These guys were pros. They worked as a team to get on either side of me. The pit bull seemed to be the alpha dog so I kept the bike between us, meanwhile yelling at the cur who had circled behind me. I kept moving slowly towards the mongrel (away from their territory). The mongrel backed off and circled back to the pit bull who was showing no sign of giving up. No amount of noise I made brought anyone out of the house. All I could do was keep yelling at them and slowly backing away until I had enough distance to get back on the bike. I'm not one to normally be afraid of dogs (I have a 110 pound Akita), but five miles later at the end of the ride I was still shaking.

Normally if I see a loose dog coming at me I'll start talking to it in a friendly voice and keep talking until I'm out of it's territory. Usually it works. These two I didn't see in time to try the happy voice method...I don't think it would have worked on them, anyway. Up until this episode I never even thought of carrying any doggie deterrent.
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Hey Stokell, i am planning on a tour from Windsor to Niagara Falls, along the north coast of lake erie, is this something i should be worried about
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It is my experience that in rural areas, many dog owners allow their charges to roam free. This means that at times dogs may run out on the road to challenge you. As you may see from the previous responses, many bikers are fully prepared for this. The north coast of Lake Erie is no more prone to this phenomena than any other.

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When you hear/see them coming, stop and get off the bike if you have time. Point directly at the eyes of the lead dog and look straight into its eyes and yell "NO" in a commanding voice. I've made the toughest looking dogs back-pedal like Scooby Doo using this technique. One big farm dog in Nebraska actually left blood spots on the pavement from sliding and trying to get turned around. So far, it's never failed. I have a small container of pepper spray velcro-ed to the seatpost on long trips, but I've never had to use it.
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