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    Surly has posted the specs for the complete Long Haul Trucker

    Features a Sugino triple crank and the XT long cage derailleur on the rear. Also, XT hubs with 36 spoke rims.

    Surly Long Haul Trucker complete specs.
    Would you like a dream with that?

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    Not much to complain about in that package . Though the saddle in the specs is not the one in the picture.

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    I think they copied off me:

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    Anyone know what the price on that complete bike is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beetes
    Anyone know what the price on that complete bike is?
    This site has it for $929.00. I think many other sites have not as of yet updated from the QBP catalog.

    I have seen two other sites list it for $1499.00

    http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/BK0650
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    Now comes the big question.... which one should I get for my Girl Friend..... the LHT.... Or the Cross Check..... Damn these Choices..... I need a beer....

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    I almost regret not waiting, but now that I think about it, I would have ended up changing out alot of parts for aesthetic reasons

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    I emailed the Bikeman site to ask when they might have them. They replied right back and said they expect to receive them O/A 4/2/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut in IA
    Now comes the big question.... which one should I get for my Girl Friend..... the LHT.... Or the Cross Check..... Damn these Choices..... I need a beer....
    I need to convince my boyfriend that he should get me a bike...damn...I need a beer.

    Here's an idea...tou could buy one for her and one for me. Problem solved...
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    SO, for those of you who built up your own LHTs what was the final price tag?
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    Centerpull brakes and that saddle make me want to hurl. Tiagra front der.

    The only thing it has over the 520 is the smaller chainring sizes, but the cranks are 170's in the small frames, which is too big.

    ehhh
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    Quote Originally Posted by valygrl
    Centerpull brakes and that saddle make me want to hurl. Tiagra front der.

    The only thing it has over the 520 is the smaller chainring sizes, but the cranks are 170's in the small frames, which is too big.

    ehhh
    What do you find objectionable about a Tiagra FD? That seems like a good place to same money to me. It looks like a good price for the amount of bike to me.

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    Some good parts there. I wouldn't choose that drivetrain, but probably less to change on it than most one sees out there.

    I don't know the rims. I run the Alex DH22 and it is a tough rim, I don't know the adventurer, the box section looks pretty heavy, so it should be up to it.

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    I haven't completed a build but I just spec'd out an LHT with my LBS:

    Sugino XD600 triple
    Shimano UN71 BB
    Shimano R400 brake levers
    Ritchey Comp Streem bars
    Nitto Technomic Stem
    SH Dura Ace barcons
    Salsa Shaft seatpost
    XT wheelset
    Shimano LX 9 speed cassette, front & rear derailleurs
    SRAM 9-speed chain
    Campy Veloce road v-brakes
    plus various sundries

    It all came in at about $1525, which includes tax and $240 in build costs.

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    "he only thing it has over the 520 is the smaller chainring sizes"

    Well for starters it has the Surly frame. What do you mean by centerpulls? Used to be reserved for those Mafac things, then the weird race brakes, are you talking about cantis? Tektro cantis are pretty good. To really do linears, which is not necesarilly an upgrade on a heavy use expedition bike unless you like a lot of wrenching, would add 100 dollars at retail (287 and digit 7s). Interesting... has anyone ever offered a bike with travel agents? I would think that would send the average bike retail person to an early grave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valygrl
    Centerpull brakes and that saddle make me want to hurl. Tiagra front der.
    Aren't they cantilevers?

    I'm typically a gear snob. This year my front derailleur sprung it's spring and I had to replace it. The only one I could get on short notice that would fit was a Tiagra. It's done pretty well by me so far; to the point where I have no plans to replace it.

    I don't like the chainrings/gear selection. 46 34 24 with 11-32 gives just about the same range with a more convenient shift pattern.

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    nice....but

    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy
    Features a Sugino triple crank and the XT long cage derailleur on the rear. Also, XT hubs with 36 spoke rims.

    Surly Long Haul Trucker complete specs.
    I thought about the red one complete but after seeing the web site I don't like all the black components.....silver floats my boat!!! I may just get a frame and build up a set of Phil woods with nice silver rims and canabalize my old Raleigh of the new parts. You really can't beat the price for all the good components. In spite of some comments ie. FD (the least important componenet) its a very good selection for a touring bike that is meant to be trouble free. Excellent gearing for loaded touring or older/out of shape and perhaps fat riders (like myself) Tires are less prone to flatting and offer a cushy ride. The LX hubs are serviceable and should last and the crank is often seen on bikes costing much more and is really a quality item even if it lacks the new fangled flash of some super light high dollar cranks. 36 spoke wheels are very smart and given the sturdy frame should last for a long time. I plan to buy the frame and possibly go with phil woods and 135mm spacing using a freewheel for a dish free rear wheel. This ought to be real strong and trouble free and IRD is making some quality freewheels with decent gearing. The LHT frame is exacly made right for a comfortable machine that will last and carry a heavy load. These guys are going to sell a ton of bikes in this configuration and probably to alot of 40-60 year old veteren riders. It should make a fine rando/audax bike with its tried and true frame design and wise tubing guages along with the smart braze ons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenstork
    I haven't completed a build but I just spec'd out an LHT with my LBS:

    Sugino XD600 triple
    Shimano UN71 BB
    Shimano R400 brake levers
    Ritchey Comp Streem bars
    Nitto Technomic Stem
    SH Dura Ace barcons
    Salsa Shaft seatpost
    XT wheelset
    Shimano LX 9 speed cassette, front & rear derailleurs
    SRAM 9-speed chain
    Campy Veloce road v-brakes
    plus various sundries

    It all came in at about $1525, which includes tax and $240 in build costs.
    $240 in build costs! Why so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut in IA
    Now comes the big question.... which one should I get for my Girl Friend..... the LHT.... Or the Cross Check..... Damn these Choices..... I need a beer....
    Well, it's great that you are getting her a quality bicycle either way.

    If your GF is of small stature the LHT would suit better because they use 26" wheels and don't compromise the seat tube angle. On the Crosscheck they use 700c wheels for the 46cm and the 42cm which means they have to set the seat tube to fit the wheel in.
    Would you like a dream with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterpan1
    Some good parts there. I wouldn't choose that drivetrain, but probably less to change on it than most one sees out there.

    I don't know the rims. I run the Alex DH22 and it is a tough rim, I don't know the adventurer, the box section looks pretty heavy, so it should be up to it.
    I would buy the bike as is because it's a great value, then slowly upgrade.

    I have the stock Crosscheck now and I find the Tiagra front derailleur very adequate, especially for a commuter bike to be ridden in varying weather conditions. If it breaks, I will upgrade as needed.
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    Personally, I would wait for the LHT complete bike to show up on Spicer Cycles or Alfred E. Bike and few other internet retailers who will give good customer service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charles vail
    I thought about the red one complete but after seeing the web site I don't like all the black components.....silver floats my boat!!! I may just get a frame and build up a set of Phil woods with nice silver rims and canabalize my old Raleigh of the new parts. You really can't beat the price for all the good components. In spite of some comments ie. FD (the least important componenet) its a very good selection for a touring bike that is meant to be trouble free. Excellent gearing for loaded touring or older/out of shape and perhaps fat riders (like myself) Tires are less prone to flatting and offer a cushy ride. The LX hubs are serviceable and should last and the crank is often seen on bikes costing much more and is really a quality item even if it lacks the new fangled flash of some super light high dollar cranks. 36 spoke wheels are very smart and given the sturdy frame should last for a long time. I plan to buy the frame and possibly go with phil woods and 135mm spacing using a freewheel for a dish free rear wheel. This ought to be real strong and trouble free and IRD is making some quality freewheels with decent gearing. The LHT frame is exacly made right for a comfortable machine that will last and carry a heavy load. These guys are going to sell a ton of bikes in this configuration and probably to alot of 40-60 year old veteren riders. It should make a fine rando/audax bike with its tried and true frame design and wise tubing guages along with the smart braze ons.
    Yeah, I can't understand the black wheels either. The Crosscheck has always had the silver rims. Maybe Alex gave a better deal to Surly on this particular color.

    But other than that, the bike is ready to go out of the box. When, I ordered my complete Crosscheck 4 months ago it was just a matter of installing the handlebar, tigthening the brakes, installing the front wheel and pedals. I was ready to roll in an hour. Ordering the complete bike off the internet was pleasant experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy
    Personally, I would wait for the LHT complete bike to show up on Spicer Cycles or Alfred E. Bike and few other internet retailers who will give good customer service.
    +1

    One of the things that apeals to me about this bike is that it will show up in several LBSs in my area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    $240 in build costs! Why so much?
    That originally included building up wheels so it will probably come in much lower than 6 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenstork
    That originally included building up wheels so it will probably come in much lower than 6 hours.
    They charge by the shop hour? Just out of curiosity what do they charge for labor to build a 36 spoke wheel?

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