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Old 02-02-07, 03:52 PM   #1
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Ortlieb Ultimate 4 Plus Handlebar Bag

I just rec'd my new Ortlieb handlebar bag and noticed the attachment mechanism is steel wire cable that feeds into a plastic klickflix unit. My previous handlebar bag had two plastic bits that bolted together to keep the bag in place.

Being that it is Ortlieb I am sure it must work, but I wanted to see if anyone has been using this system for a while and what your experiences have been?
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Old 02-02-07, 05:51 PM   #2
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I just rec'd my new Ortlieb handlebar bag and noticed the attachment mechanism is steel wire cable that feeds into a plastic klickflix unit. My previous handlebar bag had two plastic bits that bolted together to keep the bag in place.

Being that it is Ortlieb I am sure it must work, but I wanted to see if anyone has been using this system for a while and what your experiences have been?
This is what it should look like



I carried a regular SLR camera with telephoto lense in mine from Missoula, MT to Astoria. Never moved and inch. It's a very solid arrangement.

By the way, if you are using STI, you should reroute your cables with a V-brake noodle. Makes life easier. Looks like this

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Ah cool...a pic is worth a thousand words for sure. I'm glad to hear it is a solid mounting setup. I have faith in Ortlieb, but it just caught me by surprise.

I am running barcons on both my touring bikes so no cable routing woes, but thanks for the tip.
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Be careful when installing it! I tightened both of ours too tight and stripped the plastic square nut.... but Wayne at www.thetouringstore.com saved us by sending replacements.
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I use the system and like you was a bit taken aback that this was used by Ortlieb. I've used it on tour and it was fine, but I'm not convinced as to it'e durability. Using plastic nuts under tension in the way they do can only lead to problems in my opinion.
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This is what it should look like



I carried a regular SLR camera with telephoto lense in mine from Missoula, MT to Astoria. Never moved and inch. It's a very solid arrangement.

By the way, if you are using STI, you should reroute your cables with a V-brake noodle. Makes life easier. Looks like this


Cyccommute,

I don't see the wraps around the stem. My instructions say to wrap it in a figure eight (of sorts) around the stem. I have wire on the top and bottom of my stem. It looks like yours just goes under the bottom. Is this your own modification? How did you snug up the wire tight enough?

Do you remove and replace your bracket on a regular basis or just leave it on? I want to remove mine but I am afraid I might damage it.
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the new wrap system is remarkably solid as well, vik. I have the new figure eight wrap that replaced the four wrap, and its still solid. I installed it for the 2006 peak summer touring season when i switched to 31.8 handlebars- the four wrap doesn't do O/S bars.

. I ride a lot of rough road/trail with the loaded tourer, and haven't seen a problem yet. I think you'd pretty much just want to leave the bracket attached, the nuts in the bracket are the weak link and can strip from too much on/off. you'll get used to it being on front of the bike.

Anyone seen the new Ultimate-5 handlebar bags from Ort? Sexy, rounder profile, internal organizers, and nice little exterior mesh pockets on the plus version.
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Anyone seen the new Ultimate-5 handlebar bags from Ort? Sexy, rounder profile, internal organizers, and nice little exterior mesh pockets on the plus version.
I wish they were out last year when I bought mine. The bag really needs organizers. I was thinking of adding something myself.
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Cyccommute,

I don't see the wraps around the stem. My instructions say to wrap it in a figure eight (of sorts) around the stem. I have wire on the top and bottom of my stem. It looks like yours just goes under the bottom. Is this your own modification? How did you snug up the wire tight enough?

Do you remove and replace your bracket on a regular basis or just leave it on? I want to remove mine but I am afraid I might damage it.
Mine is a couple of years old. It looks like the mounting hardware has changed. Mine has two short cables that wrap around the bar on either side of the stem and are tightened with an allen screw. I haven't had any problem with the bag slipping with this system but it looks like the newer ones use a single cable. The single cable might be more secure (I've had a similar system on another bag), since it depends on the cable running under the stem to keep it from slipping.

Taking the mount on and off hasn't been an issue, however. Mine seems very robust.
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Great thanks for all the tips and advice. I'll definitely just leave the bracket on the bike - its unmistakeable as a touring bike so no point trying to remove bits between tours. I guess I'll just use it a bunch and see how it holds up. IIf I do have problems I'll make sure to make many annoying calls/emails to Ortlieb so they know to fix the problem!...=-)

However, so far nothing of theirs has failled me on my bicycle or motorcycle. So I'll have faith in their engineering analysis and design.

I guess since I am posting II'll ask - is their any other "conventional"mounting hardware that will work with this bag?
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