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Old 02-09-07, 04:57 AM   #1
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World's Most Dangerous Roads???

to help you plan your next trip, take a look at some roads you may want to keep away from, or maybe head for, whatever rocks your boat.

http://murl.se/21136

anyone got any stories or even pics of roads like these?

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Old 02-09-07, 06:13 AM   #2
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I survived commuting in Newark. Nuff said.
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to help you plan your next trip, take a look at some roads you may want to keep away from, or maybe head for, whatever rocks your boat.

http://murl.se/21136

anyone got any stories or even pics of roads like these?

george
About a month ago, the Travel Channel (cable) had a program about the "Death Road". They even talked about the bike tours a bit, but they mostly covered the accidents that have occurred on it and Bolivia's attempts at making it safer.
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Old 02-09-07, 07:59 AM   #4
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I survived commuting in Newark. Nuff said.
add boston to that, bro!

every day of the freakin' week!
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add boston to that, bro!

every day of the freakin' week!

Add Israel to that. More specifically Jerusalem. More specifically going through the Arab neighborhoods. Talk about suicidal. No traffic laws, no respect for other road users, and the occasional rock throwing. But that doesn't keep me from getting my fix every morning.

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Old 02-09-07, 02:49 PM   #6
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Phft! Latvia has the highest road death rate in Europe per capita and the one of the highest in the world at over 21 deaths per 100k residents. Every day is a challenge.....

http://www.driveandstayalive.com/inf...apita-2003.htm
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Thanks for that web site. There are some great links there as well.
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The hiking trail didn't look all that bad. Angels landing at Zion National Park seemed far worse. (But probable not nearly as long).
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I survived commuting in Newark. Nuff said.
Come-on Chipcom!

Newark isn't that bad and during the weekends, the town is deserted. I know it's kinda dangerous at night but not more than most urban cities. I think New York City is worse.

By the way, I still ride in Newark during the weekends. It's interesting but I've never ridden during the weekdays. The four corners is always a spectacle.
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The most dangerous road I've ridden is in the town of Laguna Beach California on Highway 1 going South (I've never gone north, probably just as bad). There are so many cars that there is barely enough room between the parked cars on one side and traffic on the other that a bike loaded with two panniers can barely get through.

If someone opens a door at the wrong time of a truck driver swerves at the wrong moment, it is the quick end of a biking tour.

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For those who know Denver/Boulder...Pray for me,I ride 93!!
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My scariest rides was not because of heavy traffic or inconsiderate drivers -- there were few cars when I did this stretch of road -- but because of the character of the road: heading south from the Gotthard Pass into Ticino in the Swiss Alps:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...044814,0.10849

Check out this Google map. The route I am referring to is the white road from San Gottardo (the mountain pass) through Foss, Motto, and finally into Airolo.

I anticipated an easy ride because it is all downhill... but the grades are steep; the road is narrow; the surface is, in part, cobblestone; there are 99 switchbacks to deal with; the so-called "guardrails" that are supposed to prevent you from flying over the edge would not stop you if your brakes overheated and failed, or your wheels skidded out from under you on the cobblestone.

It took me a day and half to ascend the mountain pass. Thanks to granny gears, I did not walk too much of the way up. But I actually walked more during the three hour descent! I experienced severe vertigo for the first time in my life from negotiating slippery switchbacks without guardrails.
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For those who know Denver/Boulder...Pray for me,I ride 93!!
What is it with the number 93. It's also pretty scary between Whitefish and Missoula.

Acantor, what a disappointment that must have been. I could see how a map would make a person believe it would be a great ride. Even after hearing about your experience, it looks so intriguing, I still want to do it!
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Acantor, what a disappointment that must have been. I could see how a map would make a person believe it would be a great ride. Even after hearing about your experience, it looks so intriguing, I still want to do it!
It wasn't so much disappointing as scary. I actually did coast around the majority of those 99 switchbacks, but some of the hairpin turns were so sharp and steep and gravelly and unprotected that I felt safer walking. Also, the muscles in my hands were sore and burning from constantly squeezing the brake levers.

The REAL disappointment came a couple of days later when I discovered that I had overexerted myself during the day and a half ascent, and could no longer deliver power to the pedals. Not fun while in a mountainous region. I rested for a weekend, but the problem persisted. I ended up resting for five whole days before the strength began to return to my legs, and I avoided long and steep climbs for the remainder of the trip.

I would not want to discourage anyone from trying the same route. It is a stunningly beautiful road, with minimal vehicular traffic. (Cars and trucks take a more direct, faster road through the mountain.) I met a fair number of cyclists en route. I even met a racer from Airolo who climbed up the pass in the morning, stopped for a leisurely lunch at a restaurant on the mountaintop, and turned around and coasted home that afternoon!
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The most dangerous road I've ridden is in the town of Laguna Beach California on Highway 1 going South (I've never gone north, probably just as bad). There are so many cars that there is barely enough room between the parked cars on one side and traffic on the other that a bike loaded with two panniers can barely get through.

If someone opens a door at the wrong time of a truck driver swerves at the wrong moment, it is the quick end of a biking tour.

Ray
I agree. Laguna Beach, Dana Point, etc. is all terrible and some of the most stressful and miserable riding on the west coast. Bumper to bumper traffic, tourists, and lots of a**holes. I've almost been clipped twice in that area by tourists not paying attention.
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