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Old 03-04-07, 10:24 PM   #1
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Best saddle?

Tourers spend the most time in the saddle, right? What do you all think is the best, affordable saddle available out there? (I'm prepared for a lot of "depends" responses, but hoping for some consensus)
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Old 03-04-07, 11:10 PM   #2
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Brooks B17.
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B17 or B67. B67.
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Well, after a lot of skepticism, I too have joined the Brooks camp. Reason? Zero chafing over long distances. The downside is that it is a hard saddle, no argument about that, if you want something plush do not choose a Brooks.

My Fizik Rondine was quite comfortable until it broke after 3000km of being punished by my 92kg bouncing up and down on it.
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Oh, "affordable" - that rules out both the Brooks and the Fizik.

Maybe try a copy of a Terry men's saddle. There are various brands. Selle San Marco also has a good rep. I can't comment on either of these from personal experience.

My other saddles are a bottom-of-the-line WTB on my fixed, which is good for shorter distances but too hard and narrow after 2-3 hours; and a generic gel saddle on my tandem, which basically sucks.

What you want is something that dosen't cause saddle sores, rather than something that is plush, which is why a lot of men go for narrower saddles and avoid the cruiser type saddles. Having said that, there are some people who love their sheepskin covers on a hard saddle.

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i have:
a b17n with 5500 miles on it. great!

a pro with 2300 miles on it. great!

a conquest with 100 miles on it. gettin' there.

a fizik ti aliante with 400 miles. great from the start.
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Brooks B-17 or Champion Flyer.
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the Brooks starts at 70 bones. Is that affordable? Anything that has similar qualities but maybe not the name brand?
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Brooks saddle can be had for around $50 plus shipping from many online retailers.
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Yes, it's 70 dollars, but I think it is well worth the cost. No other saddle has given me ache-free, numbing-free, chafing-free 160km-a-day rides. For me, at least, Brooks saddles have been essential for touring.
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Well, as long as you understand that I haven't actually toured, in the purest sense. Just very long day trips (60-85 miles), sometimes back to back.

I nominate the following, in order of preference: Brooks B67, Brooks Flyer, Brooks B17 Standard. They are all under $100, which, to me, is affordable. You can spend alot more and not be as happy with the results.
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I picked up a lightly used terry fly ti for $43. It's good for any type of touring, but it might even confer an advantage over the B17 if you like to ride in the drops or stretched out with aero/trekking bars. I'm extremely pleased with mine, anyway.
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Oh, yeah. Champion Flyer
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What is the difference between the narrow and the standard version of the B17? I know they are narrower but what is the purpose of having a narrower saddle? I just ordered the narrow B17 and am second guessing myself. I have huge legs so I thought the narrow would have a lower risk if rubbing on the sides. Either way, I am stoked to get a new saddle that i will be able to comfortably be able to put in long rides on.
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I'm famous in my family for pinching pennies. Or as they put it, I'm cheeeeeeeeeeeap.

After extensive research last fall I started purchasing touring gear. I rarely feel able to afford "best in category" items, but I think I succeeded in at least two areas. The Brooks B17 for $89 (from wallbike.com - special racing green color to match my sage green bike), and the Arkel handlebar bag ($125 from pedaltheplanet.com). I feel like I've compromised on just about everything else, but not on these two items. Oh, alright -- and the Ortlieb panniers and Tubus rear rack (from Wayne at thetouringstore.com). This is a very addictive hobby, has anyone else noticed...?..... :-)

FYI, I'm also a "Clydedale" at 205+ lbs. While the hard saddle takes a little getting used to, I am extremely comfortable almost all the time.


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the Brooks starts at 70 bones. Is that affordable?
Thats what I said, and after buying 3 types of the cheeper saddles I went out and got a his and hers Champion Flyer. On a good note, now I have enough saddles for our city bike's to last a very long time
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I actually like the Team Pro better than the B-17. Both are nice though.
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Are there no saddles made of a material other than leather? It seems the B17 is difficult to properly maintain. Can it be rained on? Is it the most stolen seat? There are no other cheaper yet similar saddles out there? Say it ain't so!!
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My Selle AnAtomica Titanico has the 2ndSkin leather option, which is impregnated and
waterproof. It is also the best saddle I have used to date.

http://www.mcmwin.com/saddle%20shop%20new.htm
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Are there no saddles made of a material other than leather? It seems the B17 is difficult to properly maintain. Can it be rained on? Is it the most stolen seat? There are no other cheaper yet similar saddles out there? Say it ain't so!!
Well, when you ask this question in the middle of "Brooksland", you shouldn't be surprised at the answer!

Try over in the road forum. You'll get another set of answers there.

Oh, you also asked for the "best saddle", and now you are complaining that it's too expensive! Maybe try again with "What is a good cheap saddle?".
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"What is a good cheap saddle?"
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Does anyone know about these TERRY SADDLES?

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...t%3A%20Saddles
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"What is a good cheap saddle?"
Forget about it, they don't exist. Just suck it up and buy the Brooks!

Actually, this may get me burned as a heretic, but over the years I've tended just to buy what's on sale. I've bought saddles that were name brand, anatomic saddles. Of them all, the one that I really loved was a Selle Italia saddle that came with a Univega touring bike in 1983. None have been truly disappointing. I'll keep a saddle until it starts to break down. The leather or other cover starts to disintigrate, or the padding starts to go (the saddle suddenly becomes consistently uncomfortable). The most recent anatomic saddle purchase was a Terry Mens Race. It was no better or worse than the rest.

My general observation is that as long as you get a reasonable quality saddle, your comfort level will improve as you ride it. That is, the comfort is partly to do with the saddle breaking you in.

Recently a new bike acquisition required a new saddle. After reading the forums I bought a Brooks. A little over 200 miles on it now. Still no religious experiences to report. I think, with time, this will be a good saddle, but I'm not having the "the saddle disappeared beneath me" experience that others report.

So, I recommend that if you are cost constrained, wait until a name brand anatomic saddle goes on sale, and ride it until your butt feels good.

I need to get the fire extinguisher ready...

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