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    Cheaper alternative to Rivendell Bleriot?

    Looking for a cheaper, but similar alternative to Rivendell Bleriot. Must be steel (TIG welding is fine), and fit up to 38mm tires. Any suggestions? Thanks!

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    So you want a 650B wheeled bike or would a 700 x 38 tire be okay?
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    yeah, it would help to know what features of the bleriot appeal to you

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    You won't find much out there in 650B. Try European (Swedish, I think) utility bikes.

    Are you sure you want that wheel size?

    If so, do a search on "650B conversion" on Google to look for people who've converted 700c/27" bikes to 650B. Centrepull brakes work best for this conversion, I believe.

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    not exactly apples to oranges, but kogswell frames are pretty nice - I almost bought one of their last generation frames

    http://kogswell.com/index.html

    750 is not bad for a riv (bleriot) frameset either...

    look at waterford too, they might have one that suits you.

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    700c Would be fine. Doesn't have to be 650B. I'm familiar with Waterford (as expensive or more than Riv). Kogwell only has one model, which I'm not convinced by. Surly I like, especially their LHT, which will be available next month as a complete bike with very nice components for a very reasonable price.

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    I think one of the best deals going is the urbanite touring from Urbane Cyclist in T.O.
    http://ucycle.com/bikes/item.php?nam...r&cat=urbanite

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    I guess you sort of answered you're own question. Let us know how you like it if you get an LHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jorgsofi
    Looking for a cheaper, but similar alternative to Rivendell Bleriot. Must be steel (TIG welding is fine), and fit up to 38mm tires. Any suggestions? Thanks!
    Kogswell P/R owners are routinely using their bikes as loaded tourers now. The switch to lower-trail front geometry makes using low-riders very pleasant.

    And the next batch includes separate models designed for 26" and 700C, as well as 650B.

    http://kogswell.com/KogswellPR.pdf

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    Rocky Mountain Sherpa 30! Reynolds 853 steel. Lightweight but extremely strong. check it out at www.bikes.com.

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    Apparently the Surly LHTs designed for 26" wheels will also take 650B:

    http://surlyville.net/tips-02.html

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    A Kogswell with a choice of forks and wheel sizes, what the heck is there to think about. I guess it is more expensive than an LHT, when the LHT is/was available for 360. Looks a lot nicer though that only appeals to so many... To each their own.

    Geometry would not be perfect for me in a touring bike, the head tube is more upright than I like, the seat tube is perfect. Like longer chainstays though these are OK. Good BB height. I would need almost the inverse of the seat tube/top tube lengths. It does seem to look towards more of an upright urban stance.
    Last edited by NoReg; 03-21-07 at 12:26 AM.

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    Kogswell looks nice. Plus it comes with fenders and seat post, in addition to the frame, fork, and headset, unlike the the Bleriot, for a lower price

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