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Old 03-12-07, 12:12 PM   #1
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Cheaper alternative to Rivendell Bleriot?

Looking for a cheaper, but similar alternative to Rivendell Bleriot. Must be steel (TIG welding is fine), and fit up to 38mm tires. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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Old 03-12-07, 12:19 PM   #2
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So you want a 650B wheeled bike or would a 700 x 38 tire be okay?
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yeah, it would help to know what features of the bleriot appeal to you
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You won't find much out there in 650B. Try European (Swedish, I think) utility bikes.

Are you sure you want that wheel size?

If so, do a search on "650B conversion" on Google to look for people who've converted 700c/27" bikes to 650B. Centrepull brakes work best for this conversion, I believe.
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not exactly apples to oranges, but kogswell frames are pretty nice - I almost bought one of their last generation frames

http://kogswell.com/index.html

750 is not bad for a riv (bleriot) frameset either...

look at waterford too, they might have one that suits you.
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700c Would be fine. Doesn't have to be 650B. I'm familiar with Waterford (as expensive or more than Riv). Kogwell only has one model, which I'm not convinced by. Surly I like, especially their LHT, which will be available next month as a complete bike with very nice components for a very reasonable price.
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I think one of the best deals going is the urbanite touring from Urbane Cyclist in T.O.
http://ucycle.com/bikes/item.php?nam...r&cat=urbanite
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I guess you sort of answered you're own question. Let us know how you like it if you get an LHT.
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Looking for a cheaper, but similar alternative to Rivendell Bleriot. Must be steel (TIG welding is fine), and fit up to 38mm tires. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Kogswell P/R owners are routinely using their bikes as loaded tourers now. The switch to lower-trail front geometry makes using low-riders very pleasant.

And the next batch includes separate models designed for 26" and 700C, as well as 650B.

http://kogswell.com/KogswellPR.pdf
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Rocky Mountain Sherpa 30! Reynolds 853 steel. Lightweight but extremely strong. check it out at www.bikes.com.
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Apparently the Surly LHTs designed for 26" wheels will also take 650B:

http://surlyville.net/tips-02.html
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A Kogswell with a choice of forks and wheel sizes, what the heck is there to think about. I guess it is more expensive than an LHT, when the LHT is/was available for 360. Looks a lot nicer though that only appeals to so many... To each their own.

Geometry would not be perfect for me in a touring bike, the head tube is more upright than I like, the seat tube is perfect. Like longer chainstays though these are OK. Good BB height. I would need almost the inverse of the seat tube/top tube lengths. It does seem to look towards more of an upright urban stance.

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Old 03-21-07, 03:53 PM   #13
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Kogswell looks nice. Plus it comes with fenders and seat post, in addition to the frame, fork, and headset, unlike the the Bleriot, for a lower price
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