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    Randonee owners/testers, need sizing help please :)

    Okay, I posted a thread earlier on the Randonee and I actually went and tested the bike. I really love it. Only issue is that I tested a 57cm bike, which left me a little to stretched out. I was wondering if anyone here had a good idea of what might be a good size for me. The bar came up right against my crotch on the 57cm and I supposedly need at least an inch of clearance.

    My inseam is 32" or 81.2cm. I tested this using the book under the cahones method standing up against a wall. I've gotten 32" several times. I am 5'8" tall.

    I was hoping to see what sizes other folks have been fit into so I can get a rough idea. I know it's between the 52cm and the 55cm frames. I also know that it would be best to actually sit on the bike and figure it out, but they dont have them in stock here and being in NY I would have to order it from the site and build it up. [I'm currently visiting CO right now]. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    It depends upon how flexible you are, what kind of position you prefer and how long your arms are. Any advice you get here is, at best, an educated guess. Buying without riding is tough until you really know what works for you. Do you have something that feels comfortable now that you can use as a benchmark?

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    This is my first real bike purchase, and I've had a couple people say that Im a 54cm. Unfortunately, there is 52 or 55 as my choices, nothing in between. My torso is relatively short compared to my legs. I have long arms and I'm looking for a position between comfort and road..... touring I guess, haha. Even guesses or benchmarks might help me.

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    REI has a unconditional return policy if you're ever unsatisfied with a purchase, provided you are a member. (A lifetime membership costs $15, and you get an 8% dividend on all of your purchases at REI at the end of the year)
    I believe if you sign up for a membership, you also get 20% of one full price item.

    Order one, and have it shipped to a REI store, then you don't have to pay shipping charges, if it doesn't fit try again. Or if a store isn't close to you, then an extra $50 in shipping costs to ship the bike back to them isn't really that big of a deal if you are getting a bike that fits correctly.

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    This may be slightly off topic but the standover heights for the Randonee in the 07 Novara catalog are not accurate. I just bought a 59cm Randonee (I'm 6'2" w/36" inseam). The stand over height in the Novara catalog is 87.2cm=34.3", however I measure 33.5". I checked all the other dimensions in the catalog for a 59cm against my bike and they are correct.

    Great bike by the way!

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    I seriously think they are giving standover heights with shoes, because they even tell you to measure the height with your shoes on in the sizing section of the site.

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    Lanksdragon,

    Ask 20 people how to fit a bike and you'll get 20 diffrerent answers. With that in mind, here's the way I fit touring bikes. Get the biggest frame you stand over-- if you're touching the top tube as you stand over the bike, well as long as there isn't any pain, that's great.

    Set the bars level with the seat, not below.. Test ride the bike. At this point, you'll need to switch stems to get the right distance between the seat and brake hoods. Everybody his different and the shop will have to dial in the bike to fit you.

    From the information you give, I'm betting you'll ride a 57cm Randonee with a 80mm stem, 6-8 degree rise. Have the shop at REI set that up and take a test ride.

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    Sizing was an issue for me and my wife with our 2006 Randonees. My wife got a 52 cm, which was too big for her. She returned it, and got a 54 cm Trek road bike that fits great. I know bikes will size a bit differently, especially road-to-touring, but that's an advertised inch difference, and the 52 cm Randonee was still bigger.

    Mine is a 55 cm and is a little big. I measured myself as a 56 cm. I think it's safe to say that the measurements are a bit screwy. And for the 2006 the sizes went 55 cm straight to 59 cm. Not much room for fine tuning.

    The best is to ride them, obviously, but the problem is having a variety of sizes in stock. This is a problem everywhere--REI, LBS, etc.

    Good luck.

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    What's your height and inseam if I may ask cornchops?

    And thanks for the advice tacomee. Very helpful

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    I'm 6'0", with an inseam of about 32".

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacomee
    Lanksdragon,

    Ask 20 people how to fit a bike and you'll get 20 diffrerent answers. With that in mind, here's the way I fit touring bikes. Get the biggest frame you stand over-- if you're touching the top tube as you stand over the bike, well as long as there isn't any pain, that's great.

    Set the bars level with the seat, not below.. Test ride the bike. At this point, you'll need to switch stems to get the right distance between the seat and brake hoods. Everybody his different and the shop will have to dial in the bike to fit you.

    From the information you give, I'm betting you'll ride a 57cm Randonee with a 80mm stem, 6-8 degree rise. Have the shop at REI set that up and take a test ride.
    Hopefully this isn't too off-topic...how does your method compare to the old, old method "Straddle the bike, both feet on the ground, and raise the front wheel until the crossbar just touches your crotch. The floor to front tire measurement = 2 inches" ? Seems like your method will give a bigger frame (assuming the same wheel size, of course).
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    FlowerBlossom,


    Like I said eariler, there are many ways to fit a bike. As long as the rider is happy, it's generally the right bike.

    The way I fit bikes is really the old way. Nowdays lots of roadies ride bikes with the bars much lower than the saddle, with a lot of seatpost showing, smaller frame size. I ride bikes with the bars and seat roughtly even (plus or minus an inch or so), shorter stem, bigger frame-- old school.

    However, I'm not saying either way is better. It depends on the rider. I also know that bike shop partners have closed shops over this single subject. I'm not the kind of guy to punch a person in the face because I think their frame is too small.

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    Hi,

    I would size the frame to your legs, since that is the part of the bike geometry you'll be able to change the least (particularly if it's too large). Torso can be adjusted for by changing the length/height/etc. of your handlebar stem.

    Since you say you have longer legs and a shorter torso, the 57cm bike seemed like it was coming up juuust to your crotch, and left your arms/torso feeling a bit stretched out, sounds like 55cm might be a great fit?! Do you have a chance to try a 55cm?

    I have the opposite problem from you -- I'm about 6' tall, and have a 30" inseam (on jeans.. my pubic bone height is about 81.5-ish cm). When I size bikes for my legs, my torso winds up being about 1 size too "long" for the top part of the frame. It's easy to compensate by getting a stem that pushes the handlebars up and out by a cm or two.

    In my case i can't size for my torso, since that would make it impossible for me to stand over the bike.

    You've got more latitude for sizing for your torso, if you want to go that way... you can just raise the seat an extra inch or so to compensate.

    Alternately, do what I do -- size just for your legs... then get a shorter stem till your torso feels right.

    Again, if you're not experiencing much extra standover height on the 57cm randonee, I wouldn't be suprised if the 55cm fit better overall. Also, sounds like this bike fits larger than people expect, based on its official tube length specs.

    Sam

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    Splandorf thank you very much. I have a 30" inseam on the pants but my true inseam is like yours, 81.3
    I wish I could have tried it out, but being in NYC, there are no REI stores here. However, I am prould to say that I just purchased the 55cm bike and it should be here next week. I might have to put a shorter stem on it, but I'll give it a test run when I get it and see what I need to do.

    Tacomee thanks a lot for your advice. I really appreciate your "old school" sizing method as I really dont want my seat to be 5 inches above the handle bars like a lot of people seem to have on the smaller bikes. I have a good feeling I'm gonna like this 55cm and I might have to throw a shorter stem on like you said. Thanks again!!

    And thanks to everyone on this thread who help me out. I'm sure I'll be back for more help at some point, but Im a lot closer to touring germany than I was 15 minutes ago

    Cheers

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