Just can't take it anymore. 3,300 miles on my B-17 Champion special. 2nd one I've tried. Tried every conceivable fore & aft,tilt adjustment to no avail. Slapped a LBS used bin $5 ,generic specialized saddle on my LHT yesterday and went for a 25 mile ride. Wow! What a relief! Will never go back to a Brooks. I'd place the Brooks on this list's classified section, but even though I'm a subscribed member to that list, I've never been able to successfully list anything on it. Just ordered a Koobi au Enduro The Brooks is going on E-Bay tomorrow with pics.