sean999

My 1987 Trek 850 has 17.75" chainstays (center of BB to center of rear axle). The big difference in frame geometry between this late-80's MTB and a tourer like the LHT is the higher BB. Probably not ideal for touring (I wouldn't know), but great for avoiding pedal-strike for everyday riding around town.

badger1

Like Robow above, and others on this thread, imho suitably modified mtb's (hardtail or full rigid according to preference) make superb all-round touring/commuting bikes. Take a look at Thorn's (U.K.) website for reams of info/suggestions; a member of this forum (Jibi) uses a Raven Catalyst, for example.
At any rate, I can't afford a dedicated bike like, e.g., a Raven Nomad or Catalyst for now, so I'm slowly modifying my mid-range hardtail (Giant Rainier) toward touring status (much like Robow). For me, at least, it's the ideal affordable 'all-terrain touring bike' that can also function (stripped down with tire change) as a very quick daily rider/commuter.

TheBrick

I am converting my old mbt for this but love the drop bar. Just a quicky for you guy incase you don't know.

Check out the on one midge bars, they fir mbt stems and are 35 GBP- or shipped within the US, USD 75. So quite cheap plus you don't need a new stem and look purfect for touring, wide and flared.

https://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?mo...page&PAGE_id=7

robow

I agree with what many have said here but the one point I would like to convey is that you can tour in reasonable comfort on most any bike if it is modifed properly (which is generally not too expensive) and IF THE FIT IS CORRECT. I don't care what bike it is, Trek 520, Surly LHT it must be made to fit the person if you are going to be on it for long hours day after day. If you've got the $ and want a dedicated touring bike then by all means go for it, but just starting out and if in doubt then consider modifying what you have. I toured on road bikes for years but found what works for me presently is a modified MTB, and BTW Cave, I have other photos of that same bike loaded to the max and the rigidity, long wheelbase, and toughness of such a frame give you a nice sense of control on the steep downhills and a sense of security when the roads turn to crap.

NoReg

The only thing that was a little odd on that Orange bike is how far behind the axle the load is. Wouldn't cause any problems with the weight I pack, but I don't think all would be delighted.

robow

Check out this site with dozens of photos and you'll find the majority of rear panniers ride not centered but at least slightly behind the axle and many much more so.

https://www.pbase.com/canyonlands/fullyloaded

countrydirt

Waiting for my bike photo to appear on that site!